There is a conspiracy to make us fat and bloated in this country

[unsoberx]

carbs are the problem, specially in the american diet which is too high in sugar and carbs. And many foods out there have hidden sugars like corn-syrup and cheap chemicals like starch that leads to bloating and weight gain.

Even coffee-creamers have all these ****ty chemicals like starch, corn syrup, damn its real hard to look like Brad Pitt in this society full of fattening foods.

The Wal Marts and most supermarkets out there devote a large section to breads, are fulll of these stupid pies, cakes, cookies right in your face, most supermarkets in this country devote a whole isle to baking and instant cakes !!

**** we are doomed !! there is almost no way to escape out of this conspiracy of obesity.

And then there are the *fattening thanksgiving and christmas* both holidays are real evil for most of us who want to get real cut and lose fat. But how in the world can we stay away from fattening foods and motivated toward looking like Brad Pitt or like a hollywood star. when most people in this society is not really interested in fitness, but in eating junk food.


unsoberx

[SocratesTX]

Its not really a conspiracy. It is common knowledge that most foods are produced this way. No one is forcing you to eat them. Lazy people make lazy decisions. No one has to be fat, its a choice people make.

[unsoberx]

yeah, i agree with what you said, however remember that we are human weak creatures, we are not robots or supermen. what i mean is that if we go to a supermarket and we see all these nice tasting pizzas, cakes, and snacks we get tempted to eat them, specially if we do the groceries on an empty stomach.

Another thing is that we humans require motivation and some sort of inspirations in whatever activity that people do. So if we don't have some external motivation it would be real hard to strive in whatever we do.

That's like colleges and universities. Each career inserts the student in their specific field so that they keep their motivation alive and kicking.

For example if u study medical science, u will be sorrounded by doctors, medicines, hospitals etc.

And bodybuilding is no different, we need to do this like a lifestyle so that we get motivated to keep doing it

unsoberx

Originally Posted by SocratesTX

Its not really a conspiracy. It is common knowledge that most foods are produced this way. No one is forcing you to eat them. Lazy people make lazy decisions. No one has to be fat, its a choice people make.

[Flare44]

owned.

I just ate a cheap brownie, bowl of choc ice cream, and fruit loops.

Stay strong people. I feel like ****.

[Danzig747]

The more I learned how our government really doesn't give a F about us allowing these items to sell...just more fuel for the fire to me.

I don't care if everyone around me gains weight as long as I am focused on what I am doing.

[AdamRA]

Originally Posted by Flare44

owned.

I just ate a cheap brownie, bowl of choc ice cream, and fruit loops.

Stay strong people. I feel like ****.

The worst thing about those foods is the fact you could eat it all over again in a hour.....

[mpipes]

I think being a fat unhealthy bastard should be enough motivation for anyone to make the change and enough incentive to never go back to living that way after they changed it. I know it is for me!

I'm a home-cookin' kind of guy and all the processed foods, cakes, pizza, etc. at the store tastes like utter garbage to me. I'll eat pizza, cake, etc. but it's not out of a moment of weakness, it's because that's what I want to eat and I will make my own from scratch, it will have exactly what I want in it, it will actually taste good and it will cost me less than half of what the store charges.

It's no conspiracy. The food manufacturers are doing what makes them profits, and that's relying on the fact that most people are either too lazy or don't know how to prepare their own food, nor do they know what good food actually tastes like because they grew up eating processed ****. Learn how to cook and bake yourself and your eyes will be opened up wide.

[TheManofSteel]

It's not a conspiracy it's greed man. These companies create the foods by the easiest means possible and that means cheap products, and cheap products usually mean un-healthy.

Although I am very anti-gov., they're doing enough so far. As said previously, no one forces you to buy a certain product; if people did a LITTLE research and saw what they were actually consuming...

I know what food is good for me, and then I stay away from the bad stuff.

[dogonfire]

Originally Posted by TheManofSteel

It's not a conspiracy it's greed man. These companies create the foods by the easiest means possible and that means cheap products, and cheap products usually mean un-healthy.

Although I am very anti-gov., they're doing enough so far. As said previously, no one forces you to buy a certain product; if people did a LITTLE research and saw what they were actually consuming...

I know what food is good for me, and then I stay away from the bad stuff.

This. No one is forcing ANYONE to eat the crappy foods, it's their choice. I try to eat foods that don't have a long list of ingredients, and I try to eat natural foods like eggs, meat, milk etc. not man made **** like Twinkies.

[goodfella0729]

i think it comes down to lack of education about nutrition and parents not caring what thier kids eat or eat badly themselves. if you dont try and teach them young and get them fast food because its easy then you are leading them down that path. atleast get your kids off the video games and into sports or outside activities. and you can find nutritional info on any food and for most places you eat out. if you dont care then you dont. its that simple.

[Eileen]

Believe me, I care about what my kids eat, but I feel like I'm fighting the world. Their school has a "healthy eating" policy, so they are encouraged to eat rice cakes with jam, rather than eggs or cheese. And don't get me started on what their friends eat. My kids are considered weird because they can tell the difference between kale and cabbage. Most of the local kids have never seen a cabbage.

[hikky]

Originally Posted by Eileen

Believe me, I care about what my kids eat, but I feel like I'm fighting the world. Their school has a "healthy eating" policy, so they are encouraged to eat rice cakes with jam, rather than eggs or cheese. And don't get me started on what their friends eat. My kids are considered weird because they can tell the difference between kale and cabbage. Most of the local kids have never seen a cabbage.

The school lunches are absolutely awful these days. I agree that's one place that the government should step in on.

Honestly, what 99% of people think is healthy eating is utter garbage. I can see it now.. a diet soda, a salad full of nearly-white lettuce drowned in ranch, Some dole fruit cup (with the HFCS juice in it), and a big roll made from bleached flour and slathered in butter.

[Eileen]

Fortunately, my kids bring brown bag lunches, but even then, the teachers are busy encouraging them to eat things like rice cakes with jam instead of butter. No wonder there are children of 7 and 8 with type 2 diabetes.

[DJohnson]

Ya it's rough. I definitely appreciate the freedom to eat whatever I want, but people need proper education on nutrition and why it's important. Not just a couple thirty minute lectures spread out among 12 years of school.

[mpipes]

Originally Posted by Eileen

Believe me, I care about what my kids eat, but I feel like I'm fighting the world. Their school has a "healthy eating" policy, so they are encouraged to eat rice cakes with jam, rather than eggs or cheese. And don't get me started on what their friends eat. My kids are considered weird because they can tell the difference between kale and cabbage. Most of the local kids have never seen a cabbage.

Time to raise some hell at that school and educate them. There's a serious problem when people think rice cakes and jam is even remotely close to being nutritious, let alone a better choice than eggs and cheese!! Sad thing is, most of the parents will go along with it because they don't even know the difference, but if another parent bitches enough about it, they'll at least investigate it... maybe?

[Smallbigsam]

sound more like a confession then a conspiracy, peoples dont care about others people being fat, for most people, the better it taste, the best it sell so it only logic to sell unhealthy product that taste better, you the one who choose what to eat!

[Tishalicious]

Ohhh - conspiracies.

Like the Diet Industry and Pharmacutical Industries are conspiring together against us.

Might be something in that.

Its not just America with the 'breaded circus' to keep the masses fat, dumb and contented.

[DTill]

Funny I found this post right now. I'm in the middle of finding sources and -published- research for a developmental psychology presentation on the cognitive and mental effects of obesity. So far very little goes in the way of whats actually in the food but more in the quantity of food being consumed. Another huge factor being played into the fatal outbreak of child obesity is lack of parenting skills. Kids are rewarded with candy and trips to dairy queen. So it makes sense that 10 years down the road when they do well on a test in high school they drink/eat a bunch...

Next, industry caters to kids; they're the ones who choose where a family eat. Ever been around a kid or two when the topic of conversation is where to eat? McDonalds always wins out. ok... check this **** out, in a double blind test with a massive group of people found that Ronald McDonald was the second most notorious figure to kids under the age of 12, next to SANTA. (Source: Atlanta Journal Constitution 8/8/03)

Which is worse, eating that once slice of processed crappy cheese, or the 2 lbs of high quality beef from fast food?

Odds that an American eats at a Fast food restaurant on any given day: 1 in 4 (Source: U.S. News and World Report 1/22/01)

Odds that an American Child eats at a McDonald's in any given month: 9 in 10 (Source: U.S. News and World Report 1/22/01)

Amount of money Americans Spent on Fast food in the year 2003: $119 Billion Dollars(Source: Research Alert)



Disposable personal income in the United States totaled $5,885 billion in 1997, more than 7 times the $727 billion in 1970 (table 99). Per capita disposable income advanced from an average of $3,521 in 1970 to $21,633 in 1997. In real terms (after adjustment for inflation), per capita income increased 48 percent between 1970 and 1997. During the same period,
real food expenditures per capita increased 23 percent, much of it due to the switch to more away from- home eating.
(Source: Food Consumption, Prices, and Expenditures, 1970-97)

While this is but a fraction of the material I've found, I thought it would add a little to the topic.

[s.o.u.p]

Take a look at the standard foods pyramid, heavy carbs, moderate protein, low fat.

That's your tipycal subway sandwich right there.

So anybody that wants to make "healthy" foods has to follow that program, it's a standard and affects everything.

Part of the reason I think it is set that way is not because people ferverently believe in those foods, but because with todays numbers eating high amounts of protein will prove ultimately unsustainable, so having people turn to grains and plants is the only real option.

Avoiding carbs is hard though, for the last three weekends I've spent time away from home, and away from my carefully designed eating plan, it was carbs ahoy, with every meal there were copious amounts of refined carbs with every meal, and the looks people gave me when I very little of them!

"You don't need to diet!" They'd tout, "and this is why I don't need to" I'd reply.

I do think that protein needs a revolution though, if you want carbs, your choices are boundless, you want vegan, there's many many interesting offerings, but getting a healthy amount of protein and fats in your diet..... frankly there's little to choose from.