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Old 11-06-2008, 09:45 AM   #91
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I found these two bottles at decent prices...

1. Xtreme Tren-X Prohormone
90 Caps $33.95

Chalie says "Extreme Tren "

This is the best prohormone out right now period. I gained 15 pounds of muscle and bench went up 35 pounds.

2. Tren-250
60 Softgels $34.95

With no user reviews...

What do you guys think? Which of these two would be better?
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That's also another route, with a good milk thistle or liver detoxifyer post cycle. Although I'm not sure if I'd want to be on for 2 months straight...
i was gonna run one cycle (havoc), take a month off, then run the other (h-drol). that should put me running the h-drol right before spring. perfect timing, as i'll be doing my cut at that time.
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I found these two bottles at decent prices...

1. Xtreme Tren-X Prohormone
90 Caps $33.95

Chalie says "Extreme Tren "

This is the best prohormone out right now period. I gained 15 pounds of muscle and bench went up 35 pounds.

2. Tren-250
60 Softgels $34.95

With no user reviews...

What do you guys think? Which of these two would be better?

the xtreme tren is the one i've read the most about, and is the top seller on many sites right now. the only reason i didnt go with it was it was a bit more than i'm looking for right now in terms of strength. if i'm gonna do anything harder than havoc, i'll just get real gear.

at least thats what i'm telling myself at this point.
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the xtreme tren is the one i've read the most about, and is the top seller on many sites right now. the only reason i didnt go with it was it was a bit more than i'm looking for right now in terms of strength. if i'm gonna do anything harder than havoc, i'll just get real gear.

at least thats what i'm telling myself at this point.
Yeah it says theres only 12 bottles left on the site. Would it be wise to stack it with tren? I'm not really concerned with the strength, because I'm looking for as much as I can get without actually injecting myself yet.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:30 AM   #95
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methy 1d and igh-1 Real Review NO BS!!!!

overall had great results from these products.I put on 3 pounds of muscle while on them even though I had to run everyday due to helping a friend with a paper route that requires 2 hours of running plus this affected my sleep patterns as i might sleep 2 hours some days and 5 hours the next due to running the route and mother nature pushing the papers back so they came in later and later some days due to weather issues.I put on 1 pound the first 4 days and 2 more pounds that next week before having to start helping my friend with his route so I wonder what my gains would have been had i had the correct sleep and not had to burn so many cals running the route.

methy 1d review

super agression issues had a short fuse maybe it was due to lack of sleep but i'm sure this stuff had an effect as well.

focus-focus was increased a great deal which helped in alot of ways workin out and work and the route

recovery-noticed when i took these pills and slept for 5 hours and got up i wasn't sore when after i'd workout i'd be sore somewhere without this stuff.this was a great feeling because i had gotten use to being sore.

energy-helped me push though workouts and the route on days when i didn't have much left in the tank.also made me wanna lift hard.

lifts-lifts went up at least 15,20 and 40 pounds on some lifts.

effectiveness-stayed with 6 pills a day 3 in morn and 3 at night.during the last 3 days of cycle i ran 8 pills a day 4 in morn and 4 at night and got a nice buzz that i felt during the frist feel days of cycle so i'm guess my body adjusted to this stuff pretty quick so i'll run 8 the next cycle.

final review-this is a great ph for guys just starting out with ph's and wanna see how they work.if your diet and lifts and sleep are in order you should see insane gains from this stuff.

igh-1- ran 4 pills a day.noticed a few mins after taking this stuff i'd get real sleepy for about 5 to 10 mins but for the first 2 weeks when i actually got to sleep was a great thing.

final review-seems this stuff alone wouldn't do a whole lot without a good ph or good creatine sup to aid it.
I agree this is one of the better and cheaper stacks! I used it for one 6 week cycle and got my bench back up to near 400 lbs. I have been off everything for 6 weeks and have been taking a break nothing but stretching and carddio I will try one more cycle to get to that 4oolb. mark.
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Yeah it says theres only 12 bottles left on the site. Would it be wise to stack it with tren? I'm not really concerned with the strength, because I'm looking for as much as I can get without actually injecting myself yet.
but by the same token you need to watch it because stacking two powerful methyls like that can be even worse ony our body than just injecting straight gear. liek i said its your body and do what you want, but two methyls stacked liek that is gonna wreak havoc on your body. if anything i'd say pick one, and just use a stronger than normal dosage. stacking two different methyls wont do much ( if anything) different than doing that, and it would be less stress on your body.
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What type of a PCT would be recomended for Xtreme Tren?
OTC or otherwise?

Also I havent used any ph/ds/gear, but my other question would be why would you want to use a "wet" compound when you could use a "dry" compound? Or is a wet compound mostly for a bulk and a dry for a recomp/cut?

I dont mean to hijack your thread with Qs, its a great thread, thanks for the info/replies if any.
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What type of a PCT would be recomended for Xtreme Tren?
OTC or otherwise?

Also I havent used any ph/ds/gear, but my other question would be why would you want to use a "wet" compound when you could use a "dry" compound? Or is a wet compound mostly for a bulk and a dry for a recomp/cut?

I dont mean to hijack your thread with Qs, its a great thread, thanks for the info/replies if any.

i would do something stronger than an OTC for the tren. from what i;ve read/ based on my personal viewpoints on PHs, personally the strongest Ph i;d use an OTC PCT for is havoc. but to each his own. though they do offer otc remedies on otcpct.com for stuff as strong as epistane and p-plex, so....


i guess what i'm saying is its up to you, and how safe you want to be.
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What type of a PCT would be recomended for Xtreme Tren?
OTC or otherwise?

Also I havent used any ph/ds/gear, but my other question would be why would you want to use a "wet" compound when you could use a "dry" compound? Or is a wet compound mostly for a bulk and a dry for a recomp/cut?
Nolva is really recommended w/ tren, cause tren is a progesterone type compound. You can end up getting an estrogen rebound and end up getting delayed gyno.

Raloxifene or clomid are much better choices. Clomid is usually taken the first week or so to speed up Testosterone recovery @ about 100-200mg e/d. Then run raloxifene or toremifene for the entire 4 weeks. Either should be run at 120/120/60/30. And they are also extremely effective against gyno.

You pretty much answered the first question with your next question. Wet is generally for bulk and strength. Dry is better for cut/recomp.
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thanks!

So I take it BOLD/Testoblan is the newbs/begginers ph, since you can use Reversitol for a pct.

yeah I realized that after reading it just now.

Great thread and thanks again felas.
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I having some great results with animal pak/ m-stak.The definition is getting more defined and I gained some lean mass and have had strength gains. One of the best prohormones I've used


eh, those really arent PHs so much as they are nutrient designators. i'm on the same stack right now, and i've seen SOME gains, but not too much. for me it has really been more of a filler for between my PH cycles. i mean dont get me wrong they're definitely positive, but they're not PHs.
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tren

I took tren xtreme with mass extreme and got good gains. for my pct i took estro 2 extreme by ssl and its suppose to be one of the stronger otc pct's.
thats what i've read and was told anyways.


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little help!

yo guys, im about to do a 6 week h-drol cycle for the first time.
gonna be 50,50,50,75,75,75 and as a pct run reversitol and 6oxo.
its my first cyle of anything. should i run milk thistle too, or any other advice for me would help... thanks alot
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Just finished a Pheraplex/Promagnon bridge in September...results were great. I started at 235, and gained about 15lbs total whilst on cycle. And I actually continued to gain an additional 15lbs through pct. So, starting weight was 235, and the end weight was 265, gained a total of 30lbs! I'm now weighing about 272. All my lifts are way up...planning on hittn a raw 500 bench in December!

This is about where I started


This is the last day of the cycle


This is 3 weeks after that
impressive man!!! but i havent heard from promagnon though...
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yo guys, im about to do a 6 week h-drol cycle for the first time.
gonna be 50,50,50,75,75,75 and as a pct run reversitol and 6oxo.
its my first cyle of anything. should i run milk thistle too, or any other advice for me would help... thanks alot
Its always good to have a SERM on hand just in case

I've never taken H-Drol though but usually with most PH's its good to have some protection
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This might be a stupid ? but Im about to start a cycle of Phera but Ive heard people say that it doesnt start to kick in intill about 3 weeks in to it but your only suppose to take it for 3 weeks. Do PH's keep working after you stop taking them?
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on the label they say: "use it up to 3 weeks" or somth' like that.

it would be very strange if it wouldnt kick in until 3 weeks
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Thats what I was thinking also.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:04 AM   #111
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yo guys, im about to do a 6 week h-drol cycle for the first time.
gonna be 50,50,50,75,75,75 and as a pct run reversitol and 6oxo.
its my first cyle of anything. should i run milk thistle too, or any other advice for me would help... thanks alot
i-force reversitol has androstatriene in it, you shouldn't need additional 6oxo
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Its always good to have a SERM on hand just in case

I've never taken H-Drol though but usually with most PH's its good to have some protection
eh. not for h-drol.

i appreciate that everyone on the boards is always talking about SERMs on hand, but for some things its completely unnecessary.


not to mention illegal
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eh. not for h-drol.

i appreciate that everyone on the boards is always talking about SERMs on hand, but for some things its completely unnecessary.


not to mention illegal
What are SERMS?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selecti...ptor_modulator
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I took 4 cycle's of BMF Hardcore's M-Test Evolution and used their TC3 as my post cycle support.

Each cycle was 2 weeks long and 1 week of PCT then 2 weeks off. And I only took 1 pill per day before I went to bed. Overall gained over 20+ pounds and my strength went through the roof. I started my first cycle with a bench of 185 for 2 and by the 4th cycle I was at 225 for 9.

I'm not sure if this product is only located in the Michigan, USA/Ontario, Canada area but their site is www.bmfhardcore.com I definitely recommend taking this product to ANYONE.
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I took 4 cycle's of BMF Hardcore's M-Test Evolution and used their TC3 as my post cycle support.

Each cycle was 2 weeks long and 1 week of PCT then 2 weeks off. And I only took 1 pill per day before I went to bed. Overall gained over 20+ pounds and my strength went through the roof. I started my first cycle with a bench of 185 for 2 and by the 4th cycle I was at 225 for 9.

I'm not sure if this product is only located in the Michigan, USA/Ontario, Canada area but their site is www.bmfhardcore.com I definitely recommend taking this product to ANYONE.

Holy ****. 185 for 2 to 225 for 9 and one pill per day that's rediculous.

Did you have any side effects?



Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs) are a class of medication that acts on the estrogen receptor.[1] A characteristic that distinguishes these substances from pure receptor agonists and antagonists is that their action is different in various tissues, thereby granting the possibility to selectively inhibit or stimulate estrogen-like action in various tissues. Phytoserms are scientificaly accepted SERMs from a botanical source.

Yeah dude, call me a meathead or whatever but I have no idea what this means.

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Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs) are a class of medication that acts on the estrogen receptor.[1] A characteristic that distinguishes these substances from pure receptor agonists and antagonists is that their action is different in various tissues, thereby granting the possibility to selectively inhibit or stimulate estrogen-like action in various tissues. Phytoserms are scientificaly accepted SERMs from a botanical source.

Yeah dude, call me a meathead or whatever but I have no idea what this means.
they control/ limit your estrogen levels when they try to spike after a cycle to make up for all the test you've produced...keeps you form gettin bitch tits
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cash, i didn't have any side effects at all. i don't think i was taking enough to really effect me that much.

but the strength increase was also due to a bunch of other supplements as well like animal pak, n.o. xplode, nanovapour, creatine, protein, etc. while i was taking m-test.
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How effective do you think Reversitol would be as a pct for a superdrol clone such as Methyl DX3?
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