Forearm Pain From Curls

[2uantuM]

Originally Posted by DavisForman

K I guess I would still classify myself as new to bodybuilding. Only been seriosuly at for like 8 months. Whats a supercissus?

I've heard several times on this forum (and once in this thread) that this can be caused from gripping the bar too tightly. Try loosening up your grip.

[DavisForman]

I've tried multiple grips man. It doesn't really change anything.

[DavisForman]

Hey guys i tried the tennis wrap thing and it works pretty good. I tried it this morning on my arm day and it lessened the pain. It doesn't completely get rid of it, I can still notice the pain, but it does help. I think Im still gonna stay away from the bar for a while and just stick to the dumbells for another like two weeks while still wearing the wrap, and spend some extra time on forearms.

[jchappj]

Originally Posted by italianbull

this simply means that your forearms are weaker than your biceps and you need to strengthen them up

That is ridiculous and not helpful at all. You obviously have never dealt with any kind of tendonitis. It really sux and if not taken care of can last a long loong time. Even with treatment it sometimes doesn't go away. I've been dealing with it in both my forearms for almost three years. Icing, anti-inflam. meds, cissus, turmeric, physical therapy, cortisone shots, crap even acupuncture. The best advice I've read so far for when it first starts is rest and ice. Don't just keep working it (like I did) or it'll just keep getting worse.

[smartbells]

Originally Posted by jchappj

That is ridiculous and not helpful at all. You obviously have never dealt with any kind of tendonitis. It really sux and if not taken care of can last a long loong time. Even with treatment it sometimes doesn't go away. I've been dealing with it in both my forearms for almost three years. Icing, anti-inflam. meds, cissus, turmeric, physical therapy, cortisone shots, crap even acupuncture. The best advice I've read so far for when it first starts is rest and ice. Don't just keep working it (like I did) or it'll just keep getting worse.

I have dealt with tendonitis many times. Heres my suggestion.
1. Ensure opposing muscles are equally strong(ie hams and quads, bis and tris, chest and back) unequal strength increases risk of injury.
2. Don't jerk any weight for any exercise, be forceful but if its too heavy put it down. I used to always throw the barbell up for curls and hurt my wrist like you did.
3. Wrist wraps do work very well to keep your wrists straight so you dont hurt tendons.
4. To improve forearms strenth do farmers walk, shrugs, and heavy back exercises. I have found those 3 to contribute greatly to strength/ size in forearms.
hope i helped

[DavisForman]

Originally Posted by jchappj

That is ridiculous and not helpful at all. You obviously have never dealt with any kind of tendonitis. It really sux and if not taken care of can last a long loong time. Even with treatment it sometimes doesn't go away. I've been dealing with it in both my forearms for almost three years. Icing, anti-inflam. meds, cissus, turmeric, physical therapy, cortisone shots, crap even acupuncture. The best advice I've read so far for when it first starts is rest and ice. Don't just keep working it (like I did) or it'll just keep getting worse.

Thanks for the opinion doc, but clearly I have or I woudnt have made this thread would I? Guys have posted on here already with same symptoms and they got better, so Im gonna follow what they did.

[omologato24]

Originally Posted by jchappj

That is ridiculous and not helpful at all. You obviously have never dealt with any kind of tendonitis. It really sux and if not taken care of can last a long loong time. Even with treatment it sometimes doesn't go away. I've been dealing with it in both my forearms for almost three years. Icing, anti-inflam. meds, cissus, turmeric, physical therapy, cortisone shots, crap even acupuncture. The best advice I've read so far for when it first starts is rest and ice. Don't just keep working it (like I did) or it'll just keep getting worse.

Working my forearm strength is exactly what has helped make this less of an issue for me. I think this might be one area where the doctors don't seem to have the answers.

Edit: BTW I think this thread should be a sticky or something. This seems to be a really common problem that's really hard to find info on.

[jchappj]

Originally Posted by DavisForman

Thanks for the opinion doc, but clearly I have or I woudnt have made this thread would I? Guys have posted on here already with same symptoms and they got better, so Im gonna follow what they did.

Peace dude. My comment was for the Italian Bull not you.

[DavisForman]

Originally Posted by omologato24

Working my forearm strength is exactly what has helped make this less of an issue for me. I think this might be one area where the doctors don't seem to have the answers.

Edit: BTW I think this thread should be a sticky or something. This seems to be a really common problem that's really hard to find info on.

Ya I think thats what Im gonna do. Just focus more on forearm strength for a while and stay away from barbells. omologato24 do u have any good exercises that you do?

[omologato24]

Originally Posted by DavisForman

Ya I think thats what Im gonna do. Just focus more on forearm strength for a while and stay away from barbells. omologato24 do u have any good exercises that you do?

For me the staples are behind the back wrist curls and reverse wrist curls. When I do these I like to hold the shorty-straight bar out in front of me with my elbows at a 90 degree angle, then leave all the movement to your wrists, this works the top of your forearms really well. Hammer curls and reverse barbell curls are also great for working your forearms and biceps. The reverse barbell curls never caused the pain to comeback. Any grip strength exercises should be good too. Goodluck!

[javadkonjelabat]

Originally Posted by XxKiLLSwiTchxX

First off, muscles aren't attached to bones therefore making you're doctor a complete dumb ass.

Too the original poster, You most likely have tendonitus or tendinosis. It's inflammation of the forearm joints and tendons. There is only one sure fire thing that can heal this injury and that is the age old cure of REST.

After you've rested it for a minimum of two weeks perform daily stretching exercises 2 times a day and after bicep days ice it and that should prevent it from coming back.

If you absolutely cant take 2 weeks off then you're best bet is to ice it 2-3 times a day, massage it deeply with you're fingers( yes painful but it helps break up scar tissue and promotes healing) and stretch it.

Good luck.

PS: You could take an anti-inflammatory also like ibruprofen or Aleve.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL man sry i cant stop laughing on this guy's stupid comment .Muscles arent attached to the bone ? LOLOLO dude you are even stupider than a 5 year old kid

How the **** are you push or pull with your muscle if they are not attached to the bone? what are they attached to air?

let me teach you this before you make an ass of youself infront of real people
by calling doctors dumbass, when you pull or push , the muscle transfers the pressure to the bones why do you think some people break their's forearm bone during arm wrestling ? cuz the pressure is too much for the bone to handle and snaps, same as curling ( alil more complex tho)


dumbass

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This is a common condition. Most people will describe it as feeling like shin splints except in the forearm. Some other symptoms are: sudden pain after you let go of the bar, and a reduction of that pain if you let go of the bar gradually instead of instantaneously after a set. Exercises that seem to aggravate it most are curling exercises (especially barbell) and heavy pressing movements.

I wouldn't really describe it as an "injury" per se. You can work through the pain without really risking injury, it just hurts like hell, basically like shin splints. I've experienced this numerous times over the years. I'm a stubborn one though and refuse to forego an exercise because of a little uncomfortable pain. Every time I get this, it usually lasts for about 2-3 months and then will simply resolve itself without me having to rest it or take time off or avoid specific exercises. It will only reoccur if I am forced to take several months off lifting (I've had a few serious injuries) and then start up again later. I know the pain is brutal at times though and makes working out much less enjoyable.

[SideFX]

Originally Posted by javadkonjelabat

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL man sry i cant stop laughing on this guy's stupid comment .Muscles arent attached to the bone ? LOLOLO dude you are even stupider than a 5 year old kid

How the **** are you push or pull with your muscle if they are not attached to the bone? what are they attached to air?

let me teach you this before you make an ass of youself infront of real people
by calling doctors dumbass, when you pull or push , the muscle transfers the pressure to the bones why do you think some people break their's forearm bone during arm wrestling ? cuz the pressure is too much for the bone to handle and snaps, same as curling ( alil more complex tho)


dumbass

Well actually... muscles are attached to tendons, which attach to the bones. So he's technically right. The doctor is not "retarded" though and was probably just trying to explain the condition in layman's terms. The condition is an over-stressing of the fascia which is essentially a connective tissue that surrounds your muscles, bones, and other bodily organs, ensuring everything stays compact and orderly within your body. A stretching of the fascia that holds muscle tight to the bone is what causes shin splints and "forearm splints". It could definitely be interpreted as the doctor described it.

I think you both need to educate yourselves before asserting that other people are stupid or retarded.

[DavisForman]

Originally Posted by javadkonjelabat

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL man sry i cant stop laughing on this guy's stupid comment .Muscles arent attached to the bone ? LOLOLO dude you are even stupider than a 5 year old kid

How the **** are you push or pull with your muscle if they are not attached to the bone? what are they attached to air?

let me teach you this before you make an ass of youself infront of real people
by calling doctors dumbass, when you pull or push , the muscle transfers the pressure to the bones why do you think some people break their's forearm bone during arm wrestling ? cuz the pressure is too much for the bone to handle and snaps, same as curling ( alil more complex tho)


dumbass

hey dude, don't come here and be an ass hole. K, u don't disagree with what he says, so disagree, u don't have be a jerk about it. You don't see dexter jackson comin over to ur place and beating the **** out of u because u were wrong do u? If ur gonna post, do so nicely man.

[DavisForman]

Originally Posted by omologato24

For me the staples are behind the back wrist curls and reverse wrist curls. When I do these I like to hold the shorty-straight bar out in front of me with my elbows at a 90 degree angle, then leave all the movement to your wrists, this works the top of your forearms really well. Hammer curls and reverse barbell curls are also great for working your forearms and biceps. The reverse barbell curls never caused the pain to comeback. Any grip strength exercises should be good too. Goodluck!

Sounds good. Can I do those every day or should I keep it for just arm day?

[omologato24]

Originally Posted by DavisForman

Sounds good. Can I do those every day or should I keep it for just arm day?

I'd try to do them twice a week if you can, at least in the beginning. Then you can just do them once a week or whatever on arm day if you think that'll keep them strong enough to keep up with your biceps.

[DavisForman]

Ya, okay thanks man. I've been doin some forearm stuff for the last week now, and there not cured or anything, but the pain has lessened a bit.

[omologato24]

Originally Posted by DavisForman

Ya, okay thanks man. I've been doin some forearm stuff for the last week now, and there not cured or anything, but the pain has lessened a bit.

If your pain is similar to mine, than you ought to be able to continue doing dumbbell curls without pain (although when mine got really bad even dumbbell curls started hurting).

[Raptor2k]

I posted earlier in this thread and I'm pretty sure I have golfer's elbow. Taking ibuprofen and iceing/heating for almost the past couple weeks, gonna give the weights another go in a couple days and hope for the best.

Moral of story: Don't overexhaust biceps, especially with barbell curls, and work on forearm exercises instead.

I hope this heals =/

[omologato24]

Originally Posted by Raptor2k

I posted earlier in this thread and I'm pretty sure I have golfer's elbow. Taking ibuprofen and iceing/heating for almost the past couple weeks, gonna give the weights another go in a couple days and hope for the best.

Moral of story: Don't overexhaust biceps, especially with barbell curls, and work on forearm exercises instead.

I hope this heals =/

Is golfer's elbow/tennis elbow the same as the kind of injury davis is describing? Could you describe the symptoms you have?

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Originally Posted by omologato24

Is golfer's elbow/tennis elbow the same as the kind of injury davis is describing? Could you describe the symptoms you have?

No, golfer's/tennis elbow are distinctly different from the condition davis is describing and are also different from eachother. tennis elbow is the inflammation of the lateral epicondylar portion of the elbow, whereas golfer's elbow is the medial epicondylar portion (golfer's elbow is swollen/tender inner elbow, tennis elbow is the same thing but on the outer elbow).

The condition davis describes is common among weightlifters and is caused presumably by over-stressing of the fascia (connective tissue) in the forearm as it carries almost identical symptoms to shin splints.

[Raptor2k]

Yes, it's a different condition.

[crispy26]

i get the exact same thing, when i let go of the bar i hear a huge click when i straighten my hand out.

[JohnSmeton]

This thread has helped me a lot. I haven't lifting in six months due to golfers elbow and it has basically healed up(from laying off of lifting and I'm just getting back into lifting lightly and if I push it too hard it acts up which then i back off)

Would a tight wrap(and I mean prety tight) be as effective as a tennis brace?

(I want to try a brace just $$, Ive had a cortisone shot, taken nsaids for two months[Didnt work] and every joint supplement under the sun) The best thing I can say that has helped it so far was no lifting at all.(I did legs and cardio and for about a month my right side)

[JohnSmeton]

me accidentally quoting

[JohnSmeton]

[QUOTE=JohnSmeton;242852841]This thread has helped me a lot. I haven't lifting in six months due to golfers elbow and it has basically healed up(from laying off of lifting and I'm just getting back into lifting lightly and if I push it too hard it acts up which then i back off)

Would a tight wrap(and I mean prety tight) be as effective as a tennis brace?

(I want to try a brace just $$, Ive had a cortisone shot, taken nsaids for two months[Didnt work] and every joint supplement under the sun) The best thing I can say that has helped it so far was no lifting at all.

[DavisForman]

Good news guys (well I think good news), I have been doing forearm exercises for the last 2, only doing dumbbell curls, and the pain has decreased significantly.

So ya, Im no doctor, but add some forearm work to your exercises and lay off the bars and you might find it helps you too.

[JohnSmeton]

Originally Posted by DavisForman

Good news guys (well I think good news), I have been doing forearm exercises for the last 2, only doing dumbbell curls, and the pain has decreased significantly.

So ya, Im no doctor, but add some forearm work to your exercises and lay off the bars and you might find it helps you too.

Im going very lightly on forearm db curls like 5 lbs and 20lbs on bicep curls(6 months ago was doing 60 lbs 15 x's, now 20 - 15 x's) it sucks knowing Im not building muscle yet happy at the same thing getting back into the groove(rehabbing).

what weioght are you doing on thye forearm curls and bicep curls? and what exercises?

I tried high rep nautilus preacher curl and it made it hurt somke. no no exercise for me atm.

db curls and reverse wrist curls planted on knees work. lightweight. also elbow wrapped and iced and stretch before and after workout.