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09-30-2008, 01:58 AM
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So I Am Getting Pissed Off!!!
I do crunches. I do leg raises. I have tried every last Abdominal exercise I can think of.
I do 30-45mins free weights followed by 30-45mins intense cardio (Krav Maga) 5 or 6 days a week.
I mainly eat healthy. High-carb, low-sugar diet. High-Protein and one fast food meal roughly twice or three times a week.
I would think my workouts are enough to smash the calories and get me bigger but instead my midsection is just getting fatter.
I use bloody Yohimbe and Hydroxycut Hardcore properly and no shift yet!
I NEED REAL ADVICE NOW?!!!
Reps!!!
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09-30-2008, 02:00 AM
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Calculate your BMR ( http://www.drsquat.com/articles/calorieneeds.html).
Find out if you're eating sufficiently, and adjust anything needing a change.
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09-30-2008, 05:19 AM
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If your diet is high in carbs, try cutting back a little on them and that should do the trick. You seem to be pretty active so you should keep some in your diet, but start out by cutting out 25% of them and see how you do.
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09-30-2008, 06:59 AM
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Dude. Come on. The following is asssuming you want to be bigger.
1.You aren't eating right. You heard me. You know you aren't, are you taking in 1.5 - 2g of protein per pound of desired body weight?...No you aren't. Stop thinking in the DIET frame of mind and start eating. If you want size, you aren't going to get it by cutting carbs and taking hydroxycut. Stop that ****, get off the pillz and eat right
1.2 Also, as a general rule take 20-30 grams of protein 30-60 minutes preworkout, as well as one serving of BCAAs. Then, take in 40-60g protein post workout via protein shake. Then an hour or so after that have a high protein meal. Not doing this, see 1.
2. You aren't lifting heavy enough, Cut your cardio down a little and bring up the weight during your workout. And please, please don't tell me you are one of these 3 sets of 10 guys. If you are, you have no hope. Think bigger, heavier sets. Try one like this next time you are on bench, Reps per set: 12, 10, 6, 6, 2*(*do a failure drop set in which you use a partner to assist you. Do your 2 heavy reps, drop the weight by about 40% and do this weight to failure)
3. Its not your fault......wait, yes it is. Take the time to go out and find the right way to get bigger instead of thinking you know everything when you walk into the gym.
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09-30-2008, 07:39 AM
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in his original post he said he cant lose weight on his midsection... he is obviously concerned with losing weight not putting on muscle... i agree with cutting out a few of the carbs.. maybe even reduce intensity of the cardio on days you do training to about 20 mins max... you could be burning too many calories so your body is storing everything away and not letting you lose any weight.
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09-30-2008, 08:51 AM
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flip the trainer is now embarassed for wasting his time talking sbout getting bigger when the guy wants to lose the weight so now he has logged off.
Ab excercises do make your abs bigger so if you have fat around them they will look even bigger and fatter. I would cut out the carbs like the above guy said.
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09-30-2008, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCKY_13
I mainly eat healthy. High-carb, low-sugar diet.
Reps!!!
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09-30-2008, 08:54 AM
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Doing tons of abdominal exercises are probably one of the main reasons why you are NOT progressing. First of all, tons of ab exercises are not the key to getting a good midsection. Training the entire body with emphasis on squats, deadlifts, and power exercises like clean and presses will do far more for you than all the crunches and leg raises you can muster. Those exercises are more like the icing on the cake. Also, doing tons of ab exercises shocks the system making it difficult to make gains of any type. You mentioned that you do 30 to 45 minutes of free weights, but I must tell you that is meaningless unless you're doing the right exercises for the right number of sets and reps and with the right tempo. I've seen the same guys for years who workout week in and week out who haven't progressed. Maybe you could post your exact program and some of us could critique it and make some suggestions. One more thing is you said that you do weights and then Krav Maga afterwards. This is quite dangerous actually. Martial arts should always be done either before your weights or on a separate day. You must be relaxed and loose to punch, kick, and move quickly and properly. And since weights make you more tensed and pumped up, this would be very hard to do and could risk injury especially if you do heavy bag training.
Last edited by hulkout; 09-30-2008 at 09:02 AM.
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09-30-2008, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Defiant1
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I on the other hand am on a high fat, low grease diet
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09-30-2008, 09:25 AM
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Cut down on the carbs somewhat, and the fast foods.
Throw the Hydroxycuts in the garbage while you are at it.
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09-30-2008, 09:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PVedda56
flip the trainer is now embarassed for wasting his time talking sbout getting bigger when the guy wants to lose the weight so now he has logged off.
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Originally Posted by LUCKY_13
I would think my workouts are enough to smash the calories and get me bigger but instead my midsection is just getting fatter.
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PVedda56 is now embarrassed that he skipped over words in the original post and made fun of someone who obviously did read the post. As he should be.
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09-30-2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LUCKY_13
and one fast food meal roughly twice or three times a week.
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lol at how you worded this... I only eat one Snickers 10 x per week.
You're obviously doing something wrong. I would advise learning how to cut the fat off your body, then restart your bulk.
You said you're trying to smash the calories but get bigger? Thats just not going to happen. Im really not even sure what you area asking? do you want to cut the fat or build muscle, sounds like you are trying to do both at the same time, IDK?
I would probably say your diet is a big culprit, what types of carbs are you consuming? Your body is obviously storing something as fat and you arent getting the muscle growth you desired. How many grams of protein are you eating?
List what you would eat in a typical week.
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09-30-2008, 11:41 AM
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Hulkout repped!nuff said.
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09-30-2008, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hulkout
Doing tons of abdominal exercises are probably one of the main reasons why you are NOT progressing. First of all, tons of ab exercises are not the key to getting a good midsection. Training the entire body with emphasis on squats, deadlifts, and power exercises like clean and presses will do far more for you than all the crunches and leg raises you can muster. Those exercises are more like the icing on the cake. .....
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agreed , but hanging leg raises are excellent for the lower abs definition. End of the day, you need a low body fat % to show it off.
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09-30-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DJAuto
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Try limiting your Carbs to only in the mornings and immediately after a workout.
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09-30-2008, 04:32 PM
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by upping your protein and upping the weight he is also making muscle which does you know what to flab.
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09-30-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by heidt410
lol at how you worded this... I only eat one Snickers 10 x per week.
You're obviously doing something wrong. I would advise learning how to cut the fat off your body, then restart your bulk.
You said you're trying to smash the calories but get bigger? Thats just not going to happen. Im really not even sure what you area asking? do you want to cut the fat or build muscle, sounds like you are trying to do both at the same time, IDK?
I would probably say your diet is a big culprit, what types of carbs are you consuming? Your body is obviously storing something as fat and you arent getting the muscle growth you desired. How many grams of protein are you eating?
List what you would eat in a typical week.
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I couldn't agree more. Regardless of whether your trying to get huge or lose weight you need to cut out the fast food.
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09-30-2008, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jawadams
PVedda56 is now embarrassed that he skipped over words in the original post and made fun of someone who obviously did read the post. As he should be.
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THANK YOU! Flip the trainer actually gave some excellent advice, and, I would bet that the OP is NOT doing the things that he suggested, as the OP has NOT come back on his own thread yet....
however, I have just one question to ask of Flip: why in friggin' frackin' hell are pushing down your shorts in every one of your profile pictures???
really....you shouldn't go there.....
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09-30-2008, 06:45 PM
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BTW, if you look at this profile picture of the OP:
you will see that his body fat content is already not that high at all...now, if his listed weight is accurate ( 180 pounds ), I am betting that this young man is on the tall side, probably close to 6 feet and maybe more....
in which case, his overall level of development is still in the beginner stages, so, his biggest problem, if you want to call it that, is simply that he needs another couple of years of working out along with suggested diet to up his overall development.
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10-01-2008, 03:49 AM
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Yeah I'll cut back on the carbs a bit and have to RESIST the fast food alternatives (on the go, fast food way to go).
And yeah above poster I am 6'0"
But that pic was taken a while back.
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10-01-2008, 04:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Defiant1
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Originally Posted by mAssholio
I on the other hand am on a high fat, low grease diet
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haha I lol'd
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Originally Posted by rockymac
agreed , but hanging leg raises are excellent for the lower abs definition. End of the day, you need a low body fat % to show it off.
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No, hanging leg raises are good for hip flexors.
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