Bicep curls- half reps

[gbg]

Originally Posted by oldsuperman

This is most likely the best advice. Any heavy back work and bi work will aggravate your problem. Go light weight and stay away from the BB. Don't do any movement not mater what it its the causes pain! DUH! Why the preacher cause so many problems is you have your elbow's turned out instead of parallel to your body putting pressure on the injured area.

Always ice the elbow three times a day and always after training. Next, keep the arms less then a 90 degree when sleeping so there is no pressure on the injured area. It will never heal is you keep your arm bent all night keeping pressure on the elbow. Anti inflames, ALieve is my favorite, is also helpful.

Nothing wrong with partials when doing curls all long as you stretch out the forearm and bi's.

Can we make this a sticky??? PLEASE!!! this question has been asked to many times to mention and we all know how popular the search button is.

Try this...

Hold your arm by your side, make a fist and raise it as if doing a reverse curl. Have someone (you can even do it yourself) push down on your hand while you resist the downward pressure. If it hurts that's tennis elbow (lateral epicondylitis).

You can still curl with tennis elbow but you have to do things differently... NO barbell curls; do hammer curls, twisting curls, ez bar curls. For twisting curls hold the dumbells at your sides in a hammer curl grip, start to raise halfway in a hammer curl, then when at 90*, supinate your arm. Having flare-ups of tennis elbow, these are the only ways I can work my biceps.

[oldsuperman]

Originally Posted by gbg

Can we make this a sticky??? PLEASE!!! this question has been asked to many times to mention and we all know how popular the search button is.

Try this...

Hold your arm by your side, make a fist and raise it as if doing a reverse curl. Have someone (you can even do it yourself) push down on your hand while you resist the downward pressure. If it hurts that's tennis elbow (lateral epicondylitis).

You can still curl with tennis elbow but you have to do things differently... NO barbell curls; do hammer curls, twisting curls, ez bar curls. For twisting curls hold the dumbells at your sides in a hammer curl grip, start to raise halfway in a hammer curl, then when at 90*, supinate your arm. Having flare-ups of tennis elbow, these are the only ways I can work my biceps.

I was gonna say the same thing about the search button and forgot! Would be nice so we didn't have hash the same ol stuff!

[sytennison]

Originally Posted by oldsuperman

I was gonna say the same thing about the search button and forgot! Would be nice so we didn't have hash the same ol stuff!

I don't mind re-hashing the same old stuff. In fact, I find it useful. If I didn't repeat myself often, I'd forget half of what I know in a month.

Hmmm... I'm not getting old, am I?

[Guff]

Every question has been asked a 100 times. I know about he search funtion, but sometimes it's helpful to bring topics back up for discussion.

If you don't want to participate in the discussion, then simply click the back button. Thank you.

Have a nice f'n day.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by oldsuperman

Nothing wrong with partials when doing curls all long as you stretch out the forearm and bi's.

Can you explain this please sup? I don't quite understand.

[oldsuperman]

Originally Posted by Guff

Every question has been asked a 100 times. I know about he search funtion, but sometimes it's helpful to bring topics back up for discussion.

If you don't want to participate in the discussion, then simply click the back button. Thank you.

Have a nice f'n day.

No reason to get flippant. It's just gbg is right. There is a ton of this discussion already. Threads and threads of "elbow pain". So young man, it may behoove you to USE the search button and get faster and more information on your "elbow pain" issue then you will get on this worn out topic of elbow pain. Just a suggestion, not a command. I'm sure there will be plenty here to give advice on this, or anyother over done topics, like, "Help me with my diet", etc, if you persist.

Originally Posted by Guff

Can you explain this please sup? I don't quite understand.

Sometimes doing partials are less stressful on the joints as well. If you can do partial without pain, then it is better to do them then nothing.

[gbg]

Originally Posted by Guff

Every question has been asked a 100 times. I know about he search funtion, but sometimes it's helpful to bring topics back up for discussion.

If you don't want to participate in the discussion, then simply click the back button. Thank you.

Have a nice f'n day.

That wasn't necessary and I don't appreciate it, I left you 2 opinions on this matter hoping to help you and this is how I get spoken to?


HAVE A NICE DAY

[Skidmarx]

I hardly ever use the search button. To me it doesn't feel like I'm having a conversation when I bring up a thread from a year ago. Plus I don't usually click on threads I know are old news, so I assume others here do the same. And if you quote someone and ask a question they may not even check the boards anymore.

When someone says I should have used the search button, I wish there was a kiss-my-ass button.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by gbg

That wasn't necessary and I don't appreciate it, I left you 2 opinions on this matter hoping to help you and this is how I get spoken to?


HAVE A NICE DAY

And it wasn't necessary for you to remind me of the search button either. I didn't appreciate it much.

For the record I have read many of these elbow pain threads, hell I read almost everything posted on a daily basis. At time I prefer to post about my specific issue with the thoughts that possibly my issue or question is a bit different. As I said, every question as been asked 100 times at this point. Should we just close down this section and nobody post? Now what fun would that be?

Sup- I get the part about the partials, and thanks for finally answering my question (as nobody really had to this point). I don't get the part about stretching out the forearm and bi's. It seems opposite from a partial rep.

[Guff]

oh, and BTW. Thank you for the all of the suggestions, I do appreciate it.

[dbx]

Originally Posted by Skidmarx

I hardly ever use the search button. To me it doesn't feel like I'm having a conversation when I bring up a thread from a year ago. Plus I don't usually click on threads I know are old news, so I assume others here do the same. And if you quote someone and ask a question they may not even check the boards anymore.

When someone says I should have used the search button, I wish there was a kiss-my-ass button.

(Guff and gbg, this is not directed at either of you, and is only directed toward the post of the person I quoted):

There's a ton of valuable information buried in threads here. And you might want to consider this; Ok, a thread is started and the OP's question has been asked hundreds of times before, and it also requires a thoughtful and somewhat lengthy response. You need to realize that there are often only a handful of members who would probably offer the "optimal" answer. Now, consider these questions:

How many of them will be reading your thread that day? How many of them actually has the time to type out that thoughtful and encompassing answer? How many of them are willing to repeat themselves for the 100th time?

So, what happens? Well, you have JohnnyBigGuns, Swole99, and Bigmofo answer your question for you. Of course, they've picked up some valuable information during their 23yrs on Earth, 3 months of lifting, and their 60 days since joining here. And because you're new yourself, you have no clue that they have no clue as to what the hell they're talking about. And then, as a bonus.....you start regurgitating JohnnyBigGun's sage advice to other who ask. This is called - watering down the gene pool. And with the huge bump in membership here in the past 18 months, it's like some extra strength bleach just got thrown in the pool.

Enjoy your learning experience while you refuse to use the search feature. It's more valuable now than at any other time here.

[gbg]

Originally Posted by dbx

(Guff and gbg, this is not directed at either of you, and is only directed toward the post of the person I quoted):

There's a ton of valuable information buried in threads here. And you might want to consider this; Ok, a thread is started and the OP's question has been asked hundreds of times before, and it also requires a thoughtful and somewhat lengthy response. You need to realize that there are often only a handful of members who would probably offer the "optimal" answer. Now, consider these questions:

How many of them will be reading your thread that day? How many of them actually has the time to type out that thoughtful and encompassing answer? How many of them are willing to repeat themselves for the 100th time?

So, what happens? Well, you have JohnnyBigGuns, Swole99, and Bigmofo answer your question for you. Of course, they've picked up some valuable information during their 23yrs on Earth, 3 months of lifting, and their 60 days since joining here. And because you're new yourself, you have no clue that they have no clue as to what the hell they're talking about. And then, as a bonus.....you start regurgitating JohnnyBigGun's sage advice to other who ask. This is called - watering down the gene pool. And with the huge bump in membership here in the past 18 months, it's like some extra strength bleach just got thrown in the pool.

Enjoy your learning experience while you refuse to use the search feature. It's more valuable now than at any other time here.

I love you....

[oldsuperman]

Originally Posted by dbx

(Guff and gbg, this is not directed at either of you, and is only directed toward the post of the person I quoted):

There's a ton of valuable information buried in threads here. And you might want to consider this; Ok, a thread is started and the OP's question has been asked hundreds of times before, and it also requires a thoughtful and somewhat lengthy response. You need to realize that there are often only a handful of members who would probably offer the "optimal" answer. Now, consider these questions:

How many of them will be reading your thread that day? How many of them actually has the time to type out that thoughtful and encompassing answer? How many of them are willing to repeat themselves for the 100th time?

So, what happens? Well, you have JohnnyBigGuns, Swole99, and Bigmofo answer your question for you. Of course, they've picked up some valuable information during their 23yrs on Earth, 3 months of lifting, and their 60 days since joining here. And because you're new yourself, you have no clue that they have no clue as to what the hell they're talking about. And then, as a bonus.....you start regurgitating JohnnyBigGun's sage advice to other who ask. This is called - watering down the gene pool. And with the huge bump in membership here in the past 18 months, it's like some extra strength bleach just got thrown in the pool.

Enjoy your learning experience while you refuse to use the search feature. It's more valuable now than at any other time here.

Originally Posted by gbg

I love you....

I DON'T love you ..... YET, DANG dbx, that about says it all!

PS. I do LIKE you tho.

[Nota]

Whatever this joint pain thing is it's the sh*t if your a weight lifter. If your young it's probably and injury that was incurred while improperly executing a movement or going to heavy.

Who knows what the problem might be when your a little older. I've had temporary set-backs before but none permanent. The worst was in 2004 when I thought I had a torn-rotor cuff, but after an MRI they found out that my clavicle bone slightly slipped out of place about a quarter of an inch. I reckon it was from doing heavy side laterals with dumbells. That's water under the bridge now and there's no pain there now, but there is a small lump there on my left shoulder where the trap meet the deltoid.

[Skidmarx]

Originally Posted by dbx

So, what happens? Well, you have JohnnyBigGuns, Swole99, and Bigmofo answer your question for you.

Haha. That's F'n funny, man.

[Hey-Iwas51]

Originally Posted by sytennison

I don't mind re-hashing the same old stuff. In fact, I find it useful. If I didn't repeat myself often, I'd forget half of what I know in a month.

Hmmm... I'm not getting old, am I?

As a matter of fact, I had not discussed this in a while, and forgot which B vitamin Bald Snake said is the one to take for tennis elbow!!!

So, pretty good theory. I don't mind reading the latest members input either!!

Dan

PS. O yeah... I been using an EZ curl bar for about four months now... have put a half inch on my arms... had been frozen for over a year. Couldn't curl enough weight to help much before, with all the tendon pain. With the EZ bar... it feels sooo good lifting something that matters.

also, I recently found out I have a vitamin D deficiency... Can Tendonitis be caused by that??? Makes sense. In my case the doc says I am getting "thinning" bones because of it. Yuck!

[Guff]

Thanks for bringing it up, I had forgotten to update the update!

I tried my "half rep" theory over the weekend. It didn't work so well, as my right elbow still become sore. It's not a disabling pain, not that severe, but enough to prevent me from pushing really heavy weights. I still get a good arm workout though.

For next arm blast I'm going to try an elbow brace.

[chodan9]

I use the search feature a lot, but one thing it doesnt always give me is thoughts from the current crop of users on the forums,
I may not want to know what somebody who hasn't logged on in 2 years thinks, I may want to know what YOU think.
I like my info current from people who are doing it now

[Guff]

The subject that won't die.

I too use the search, A LOT. I've scoured this site over the last year and a half, particularlay in the aas and nutrition sections. As mentioned in a couple of posts earlier, sometimes it's nice to post your specific question so you can have an online discussion pertaining to you.

[dbx]

Originally Posted by Guff

As mentioned in a couple of posts earlier, sometimes it's nice to post your specific question so you can have an online discussion pertaining to you.

And Guff, I absolutely agree with you. Thus, the disclaimer . There will always be times we want current discussion. Hell, if you don't know who the "old members" are in the search threads....you can't be sure of whom to trust either. There are dozens of valid reasons why you wouldn't want to use the Search feature at any given time. But there are also blatant abuses of not using it. Just kinda...sorta...know where you are when you ask. Admittedly, this place would be pretty boring if we all only used the search button

[chodan9]

As for the original post, I had a similar thing going on earlier this year, with both wrist and elbow pain.
I couldnt use the straight bar for curls as well as the ez bar without pain.
I just quit em for a while, I used the hammer grip curl bar and dumbells for several.
its like the old joke
"hey doc it hurts when i do this"
"dont do that!"
i have been using the ez bar again for a while and am glad i stayed away from it. I had to just let it heal

[sytennison]

Originally Posted by Guff

I tried my "half rep" theory over the weekend. It didn't work so well, as my right elbow still become sore. It's not a disabling pain, not that severe, but enough to prevent me from pushing really heavy weights. I still get a good arm workout though.

For next arm blast I'm going to try an elbow brace.

You may need to let your elbows cool down a bit before you try to get through a workout with an elbow brace or whatever. When I first started getting tennis elbow, I tried a lot of things to try to get through my workouts. Nothing worked and the pain only got worse until I finally called it quits and gave my elbows a rest. It wasn't until the pain was nearly gone that I started experimenting again with ways to work arms without triggering a relapse.

[BuckSpin]

Originally Posted by chodan9

its like the old joke
"hey doc it hurts when i do this"
"dont do that!"

/thread

[oldsuperman]

Originally Posted by gbg

Can we make this a sticky??? PLEASE!!! this question has been asked to many times to mention and we all know how popular the search button is.

.

Originally Posted by oldsuperman

I was gonna say the same thing about the search button and forgot! Would be nice so we didn't have hash the same ol stuff!

I would suggest _VL, you use the search feature as well to understand the YEARS of discussion on this topic. You can't believe how many times peeps have been warned to see a Doc or PT on this topic. It is a boring and a warned out topic IMO, and frankly it gets tiring re-hashing it over and over and over again. YAWN. Getting tired.

If you think this is a scary thread, take time to read all the thousands of posts and threads that are on this forum about neck, knee, shoulder, back, head aches, foot pain, stomach problems, chest pain, pecks, .... oh I could go on and on yet, I'll let you do that for me, and wright warnings on them as well! That will keep you busy for a few years! YAWN!!! Sooooo tired.

[BrotherWolf]

Originally Posted by Guff

Yeh, I do believe it is "only" tennis elbow...of sorts. I don't think I've done anything serious to the joints. I hadn't thought of a brace. Maybe I'll give that a try. I typically do only use dumbells as I found the barbells make it much worse, especially the straight ones. The curved EZ-curls do eleviate some of the issue. This has been an on-going issue for some time. I just associated it with approaching 40.

If that is the case it's easy to spot , run to the local sporting goods store get a nice tennis elbow pad and see if it make a difference..
do you warm up before working out ?? I had the same problem when bench pressing, a lot of warmup sets with lower weight gradually fixed the issue..

of course it could be something more serious so don't take it lightly..