sex, masturbation, and testosterone levels

[sensei101]

Originally Posted by Tolerance

i was waiting for you to write in this thread.

last night.......




wat

i love my honda fit =-)..

[sensei101]

Originally Posted by yourname2221

calling bull on that...

i used to be the same, doing it all the time and un able to stop....but i did my best and took a week off and i def noticed a difference in the gym cause the next time i did it and went to the gym i felt pretty ****ty compared to the day before. I have cut my self off completely and have not felt better.

cutting off from jerking? sorry dude...missing out on some good ol porn..
I can go without doing it..I have done it..but didnt notice anything..and the difference u do get is prob minimal..so unless ur trying to get in amazing shape for a show..jerk it..ill even send u some sites..no reps needed

[BJE]

Originally Posted by Catchol

I'd rather have a gorgeous, muscular body and have sex only a few times a month than be a fat-doughboy who has sex everyday.

Having sex three times a week with my wife for the last twenty plus years hasn't turned me into a fat-doughboy yet. Besides, the workout you get from sex probably burns off enough fat to make up for whatever you might gain from prolactin. I usually work up a good sweat.

Being that sex is my #1 favorite thing I don't plan on giving it up any time soon. Hopefully not until I'm about 110 years old!

[Cr4zYH3aD]

havent had sex in 7-8 years

[sensei101]

I havent had sex in....2+2=4*89= 10 minutes ago..

my honda fit is seriously amazing...

[nillocsivad]

i quit spankin it and ive noticed higher energy levels for sure. thats about as far as i can comment. im gonna keep it this way and see how things go

[ponshoe]

Originally Posted by Cr4zYH3aD

havent had sex in 7-8 years

wtf! if youre serious how do you survive? no homo right?

I haven't had sex for about 3 weeks and im dying

[hazard_mkd]

well....

i did found a study on this.. (cant remember where, and im to lazy to google it) which said

a visual stimulant ( weatching porn ) .. WITHOUT jerkin it off.. incseases testosterone levels a lot...

this is good preworkout..

you watch porn preworkout.. you get HORNY AS HELL ( if you can endure it ) .. i mean a stiff cock and nobody home.. AAaa.. BUT , the workout is AWESOME!.

try it. i've been doin it a while..

[BJE]

Originally Posted by ponshoe

I haven't had sex for about 3 weeks and im dying

Three or four days without is about all I can take.

[javyn]

If masturbation drops testosterone levels, I should have grown titties by the age of 15.

[iWr3k]

Originally Posted by Catchol

Teststosterone levels peak in males who have abstained from orgasm for 7 days.



I'd rather have a gorgeous, muscular body and have sex only a few times a month than be a fat-doughboy who has sex everyday. If you don't feel the same, then why are you even here? Bodybuilding is about putting the pleasure of creating and maintaining a gorgeous and masculine physique above all other pleasures.

Besides, when I have sex, it's *always* good -- never "so-so". There's something to be said for self-deprivation in the name of beauty because when you finally allow yourself to indulge, the pleasure is unique and exquisite.

i cant belive u think having sex everyday will make you a doughboy, thats ridiculous. you can creat and maintain a great physique having sex all day everyday ppl do it all the time.

Originally Posted by Drabnak

I don't masturbate at least 2 days prior to my training days and it works. Just try it. My gains are coming faster and my energy level is way up.

you're kidding me right? that can be a placebo effect. you can think "having sex will make my test levels sky rocket" and ur brain will make u think ur as strong as an OX

[BJE]

Originally Posted by DRP7

1. orgasm leads to an acute increase of prolactin.

What level of prolactin would be considered acute, as opposed to normal?

[therunner]

Can't prolactin be inhibited by dopamine?

[Sidle]

Originally Posted by michael3435

hi, this is a SERIOUS post. i would like to open up a discussion on this topic, or at least get some answers. i have been wondering if masturbation or sex increases or decreases test levels? i have heard about equal information from both hypotheses. what about those who have sex/masturbate every day or those who hardly do it at all?

from personal experience,
sex makes me weak.
VERY WEAK.

[simpleguy]

I've read a few studies about this and having sex only increases testosterone output... technically that's more muscle and less fat...

anyway, I kinda doubt all this has a big effect on muscle building or fat loss

[Lisa_nm]

With every ejaculation you lose about 25-30mg of Zinc... Daily zinc requirements just to be relatively healthy are 25mg per day.
Being slightly run-down depletes zinc, not eating enough red meat depletes zinc and working out alot depletes zinc.
Zinc is used by the body together with Magnesium and B6 to make testosterone.
So if the average person tends to be zinc deficient anyway-most days your bordering on less than the RDI then you go have sex or have a wank...you put yourself into the deficient category most of the time.
Hence-how do you make testosterone with only parts of the puzzle present??
Put the zinc back in (ie. supplements or a perfect diet and no stress) and you'll be sweet...but remember-fighting a cold/flu is considered more important to the body than making muscles grow. So make sure you enough zinc to get better and get bigger
So its not so much about the act of sex/wanking/ejaculation- its about what minerals you lose whilst doing so and what happens as a result of losing these mineral that ends up inhibiting your body's ability to produce testosterone

[Bane]

Originally Posted by DRP7

evidence?

could you quote/cite a source you have this information from?`

I's about 4-5mg actually

[Da Main Man]

might be helpful.

[DaddyR]

Originally Posted by Da Main Man

might be helpful.

Glad you posted that. Reading the Results section.... Notable is the fact that they report a "high sexual drive in the offender group which was reflected by high masturbation frequency" and yet "sexual offenders did not differ from control subjects in their testosterone concentrations during either the experimental or the control sessions."

So the group characterized by their high masturbation frequency had testosterone levels that were not statistically different from those of the control group.

I'd count that as one study that confirmed the transient prolactin elevation associated with orgasm, but also showed that it doesn't seem to result in any overall difference in testosterone levels among those who masturbate a lot.

P.S. - Yes obviously they weren't testing that aspect intentionally, but the results are there for the viewing and somewhat reassuring to the average wanker. hehe.

[ZDub212]

Originally Posted by DRP7

after two pages of "jerking off" now back to science please, if there's any left.

there are two unresolved questions so far:

1. orgasm leads to an acute increase of prolactin. however, what does happen with testosterone in a subacute/chronic matter?

2. are the acute (and non-acute) hormonal response patterns to masturbation-induced orgasm identical with those to sex-induced orgasm?


if anyone can contribute anything meaningful in order to shed some light on one of the above two questions, please go ahead. it will be rewarded.

Here's my question...if something like Cabergoline was ingested, would that lower the refractory period to almost nothing?

[nillocsivad]

to be honest i think my refusing to wank and higher energy levels is more related to an increased level of dedication to fitness. ie, placebo

but im not sure.

[Da Main Man]

Originally Posted by ZDub212

Here's my question...if something like Cabergoline was ingested, would that lower the refractory period to almost nothing?

same question for bromo ^^

[ZDub212]

bump

[em.pyre]

makes you dance like Ronnie

[i.am.legend]

subscribed..lulz

[Vitamin-J]

...and if Masturbation is part of our Cardio Routine?

[samsumon]

woah woah there marathon runner..some of us are short distance sprinters....not to much cardio iiiiiiiffffffff you know wata I mean

[sevenleigh]

You will go blind!

[Lisa_nm]

Originally Posted by DRP7

evidence?

could you quote/cite a source you have this information from?`

Here's some sources for you
http://molehr.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...t/full/5/4/331
This graph is a good shortcut if you dont want to read the full article: http://molehr.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...ull/5/4/331/T1

I read that average ejaculation is between 2-6ml but it can go up to 10ml so we'll say 8ml (for good measure ) so if zinc content is between 72mg-183mg per litre then i am Waaaaaayyy wrong! lol...but i'm ok with that. I do love a good exaggeration though

http://www.springerlink.com/content/r5784137u45j7640/

"Bane" says about 5mg....he's prob right. To me 5mg sounds more realistic even though i was always led to believe it was higher. Maybe it depends on the health of the person Ie. consume more zinc=spoof more zinc
Still if you wank and have sex a few times a day well thats 15mg gone, i reckon that's worth supplementing for!

[enimatpyrt]

Originally Posted by em.pyre

makes you dance like Ronnie

LOL what the heck is he doing?