Branch Warren is OFFICIALLY OUT

[jjdrum06]

Originally Posted by manfred99

yeh that **** can happen. i think it has a lot to do with how close you are pushing yourself to the limit in your training, your body out of the gym rushing to recover from the workouts can be more vulnerable.




please list your judging accomplishments.
just as i thought another judging noob acting like he knows it all

the purpose of this forum is for regular people to express their views on pro bbing. end of story. he obviously feels the judging criteria at the olympia is a joke...and if youre ever around here you should know that many people agree. jay cutler will win this year with a mediocre and bloated physique. the truely best bodybuilders are the guys who are slightly smaller for the purpose of maintaining the equally important factors that go into judging criteria (symmetry, proportion, balance, lines, etc). the guys who exhibit these get screwed every year.

no one needs to have "judging accomplishments" in order to make that conclusion.

[manfred99]

Originally Posted by jjdrum06

the purpose of this forum is for regular people to express their views on pro bbing. end of story. he obviously feels the judging criteria at the olympia is a joke...and if youre ever around here you should know that many people agree. jay cutler will win this year with a mediocre and bloated physique. the truely best bodybuilders are the guys who are slightly smaller for the purpose of maintaining the equally important factors that go into judging criteria (symmetry, proportion, balance, lines, etc). the guys who exhibit these get screwed every year.

no one needs to have "judging accomplishments" in order to make that conclusion.

LMAO,

DD pls step in here before this guy does any more damage to himself.

[airnzah]

Originally Posted by jjdrum06

im tired of people interpreting that incorrectly. no one is saying his training style isn't effective for him. people are however saying that he trains dangerously, and that by using as much momentum as he does with that much weight, on every freaking exercise...it is inevitable he would get injured.

tore his tricep falling down the stairs? i call bs for a few reasons. 1. it makes zero sense how one can fall down the steps and tear a tricep. 2. branchs training style. 3. "i hurt myself falling down the steps" is one of the most classic lines used to bs an injury (e.g. a wife gets her ass beaten by her husband and says she fell down the steps to explain her bruises).

sorry branch. train a little safer and lose the super hardcore attitude (like literally tossing 45 lb plates across the gym),...and you will continue to be a top level pro.

LOL. makes zero sense huh? funny. why don't you try it? & pretend you don't know, to make the whole thing an 'actual' accident. if it don't work, try again. & please don't stop until somethin snaps. bust the myth!

[jjdrum06]

Originally Posted by airnzah

LOL. makes zero sense huh? funny. why don't you try it? & pretend you don't know, to make the whole thing an 'actual' accident. if it don't work, try again. & please don't stop until somethin snaps. bust the myth!

someone please just explain how you need to fall in order to tear a tricep? branch throws 405 lb bench presses around like theyre nothing...and nothing tears. but he falls down a flight of stairs and and a tricep tears. im sorry i just cant understand how that is physically possible.

obviously you know what youre talking about so please enlighten me.

[morderstwo]

i personally dont see anything not believable about branch slipping, falling & tearing a tricep after he flung that loaded barbell off the top step.

[caleb56]

Originally Posted by jjdrum06

someone please just explain how you need to fall in order to tear a tricep? branch throws 405 lb bench presses around like theyre nothing...and nothing tears. but he falls down a flight of stairs and and a tricep tears. im sorry i just cant understand how that is physically possible.

obviously you know what youre talking about so please enlighten me.

He didnt stretch before doing the 10 stair dips.

[manfred99]

heavy lifts in the gym, even using 'loose' form still require a lot of concentration & coordination from all major muscle groups & stabilizers. these guys can generate huge amounts of muscle power so a sudden unexpected, uncoordinated quick sharp contraction from a reflex action like falling can do a lot of damage.

now it is quite possible that he did do it in the gym but by no means as obvious as some make out. one guy made a good point how yates trained with perfect form yet still managed to destroy half his body.

[DiamondDelts]

Just WOW at how this thread turned out. More dolla for dolla than 21st on a saturday night.

[siersy]

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The _______ they are, ___ ________ they ____

[Flex500]

Originally Posted by jjdrum06

someone please just explain how you need to fall in order to tear a tricep? branch throws 405 lb bench presses around like theyre nothing...and nothing tears. but he falls down a flight of stairs and and a tricep tears. im sorry i just cant understand how that is physically possible.

obviously you know what youre talking about so please enlighten me.

i'm an athletic trainer did an internship with an nfl team, worked for a div. 1 college and still work with a major big ten school off an on through august during summer practices. THis is what I have seen over the past 5 years.....


-a partially torn bicep reaching out and picking up a gallon of milk

-torn acl running down the steps on campus (he admittedly jumped over the last two steps and twisted)

-torn achilles tendon while jogging

-torn acl while mowing the yard (foot fell in small VERY small hole but caused hyperextension to the knee and boom torn acl)

The list could go on and on. Ask a lot of major athletes and they will tell you lots of injuries happen off the field/court and outside of training.

To me personally.....

-never had one injury from training

-partial biceps tear shoveling dirt (i deadlift over 550lbs every week)

-two broken bones in my foot running up the steps

-partially torn pec doing a pushup (I bench over 400 lbs)


Mind you the top examples are division one athletes in the big ten. These aren't retards.

[caleb56]

Originally Posted by Flex500

i'm an athletic trainer did an internship with an nfl team, worked for a div. 1 college and still work with a major big ten school off an on through august during summer practices. THis is what I have seen over the past 5 years.....


-a partially torn bicep reaching out and picking up a gallon of milk

-torn acl running down the steps on campus (he admittedly jumped over the last two steps and twisted)

-torn achilles tendon while jogging

-torn acl while mowing the yard (foot fell in small VERY small hole but caused hyperextension to the knee and boom torn acl)

The list could go on and on. Ask a lot of major athletes and they will tell you lots of injuries happen off the field/court and outside of training.

To me personally.....

-never had one injury from training

-partial biceps tear shoveling dirt (i deadlift over 550lbs every week)

-two broken bones in my foot running up the steps

-partially torn pec doing a pushup (I bench over 400 lbs)


Mind you the top examples are division one athletes in the big ten. These aren't retards.

man im staying in bed unless im going to the gym from now on.

[Flex500]

Originally Posted by caleb56

man im staying in bed unless im going to the gym from now on.

hehe the journal of strength and conditioning actually about 5 years ago had a study about it this type of thing in there. A lot of the thought was that when you train your body is ready, prepared, "on guard" almost for the stresses of training.

However if the body is totally relaxed and suddenly you off to tense up that is often when injuries occur.

I just look at my shovel incedent. I was relaxing done doing yard work for the day sitting in my garage then I saw one more pile of dirt I forgot about so I yanked the dirt real hard with the shovel and "snap!" partial biceps tear.

It couldn't have weighed more than 10 to 15 pounds.

[5x10]

im not a big fan of branch warren
he turned his back on his friend(mark hamlin) who helped him get to where he is

then he opened a gym right down the street to compete against his ex friend

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by 5x10

im not a big fan of branch warren
he turned his back on his friend(mark hamlin) who helped him get to where he is

then he opened a gym right down the street to compete against his ex friend

Your big.

[airnzah]

Originally Posted by jjdrum06

someone please just explain how you need to fall in order to tear a tricep? branch throws 405 lb bench presses around like theyre nothing...and nothing tears. but he falls down a flight of stairs and and a tricep tears. im sorry i just cant understand how that is physically possible.

obviously you know what youre talking about so please enlighten me.

In case you haven't read posts here (lazy, maybe?), here ya go bro

Originally Posted by Bigdolf

When I tore my triceps tendon it wasn't at the gym, but opening a window at my house. I think that they put a pounding on there bodies already and the littlest thing makes it go all the way

Originally Posted by ronnie0072

I beleive it is because these guys have tremendous MIND power. They can phyce (sp) them selves up to do anything in the gym. So when something like a slip and fall happens and all the sudden all the weight of you huge freaky body is on one samll tricep some thing has to give. Useally it wont be the hand rail, floor, ect ect. This sux though branch is def a fav of mine.

Originally Posted by Tyrbolift

How can you and all the others here think injuries outside of lifting are suspect. It is soooo common (seriously), I've heard tons of people vent their frustration about how stupid simple stuff caused an injury when they go in and throw tons of iron around daily. It happens because when lifting, you are in control, but these funny injuries happen because of the unexpected...a sudden wrong twist, a slip, split seconds of moments where you are not in control, and BAM!

Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI

not only is that true, but there is another thing here: GIVING SOMEONE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT......

and until anyone has been proven a consistent liar, it is something I will give to anybody first.....

Originally Posted by manfred99

yeh that **** can happen. i think it has a lot to do with how close you are pushing yourself to the limit in your training, your body out of the gym rushing to recover from the workouts can be more vulnerable.

Originally Posted by morderstwo

yates trained with 'textbook perfect form'

just sayin

Originally Posted by Marauder63

Whats so impossible to understand that someone Fell and Tore a damn muscle
these bodybuilders do push heavy weights day in and day out but that doesnt mean they are all immune to such things as falling down stairs.

we are all humans in the end as well as Branch and the other bodybuilders...he just happens to be one huge human!

Originally Posted by Diesel 7

Why is it so hard for people to believe that a slip could have caused this injury? Just because his training is more intense than most doesn't mean that this tricep tear is a direct result of it. What we preform in the gym are calculated intentional movements, what may or may not have happened to Branch was the opposite. So considering that he may or may not have slipped then braced himself and suddenly contracted his tricep with enough power to create a tear is not that far fetched.

Originally Posted by manfred99

heavy lifts in the gym, even using 'loose' form still require a lot of concentration & coordination from all major muscle groups & stabilizers. these guys can generate huge amounts of muscle power so a sudden unexpected, uncoordinated quick sharp contraction from a reflex action like falling can do a lot of damage.

now it is quite possible that he did do it in the gym but by no means as obvious as some make out. one guy made a good point how yates trained with perfect form yet still managed to destroy half his body.

Originally Posted by Flex500

i'm an athletic trainer did an internship with an nfl team, worked for a div. 1 college and still work with a major big ten school off an on through august during summer practices. THis is what I have seen over the past 5 years.....


-a partially torn bicep reaching out and picking up a gallon of milk

-torn acl running down the steps on campus (he admittedly jumped over the last two steps and twisted)

-torn achilles tendon while jogging

-torn acl while mowing the yard (foot fell in small VERY small hole but caused hyperextension to the knee and boom torn acl)

The list could go on and on. Ask a lot of major athletes and they will tell you lots of injuries happen off the field/court and outside of training.

To me personally.....

-never had one injury from training

-partial biceps tear shoveling dirt (i deadlift over 550lbs every week)

-two broken bones in my foot running up the steps

-partially torn pec doing a pushup (I bench over 400 lbs)


Mind you the top examples are division one athletes in the big ten. These aren't retards.

Originally Posted by Flex500

hehe the journal of strength and conditioning actually about 5 years ago had a study about it this type of thing in there. A lot of the thought was that when you train your body is ready, prepared, "on guard" almost for the stresses of training.

However if the body is totally relaxed and suddenly you off to tense up that is often when injuries occur.

I just look at my shovel incedent. I was relaxing done doing yard work for the day sitting in my garage then I saw one more pile of dirt I forgot about so I yanked the dirt real hard with the shovel and "snap!" partial biceps tear.

It couldn't have weighed more than 10 to 15 pounds.

hope that helps, my good sir. that's the nature of an 'accident'. either your lucky or you're not, no matter how stupid it may be. some can tear a tendon just by tripping on a damn stone or a crack on the ground or something. on the contrary, there are some instances where people should be 6-feet below comin from a major accident, but still lived to talk about it (base jumper messed the 'chute, came crashing down hundreds of feet, walked out fine laughing, w/ only bruises). mind boggling, wouldn't you agree?

[TheShred]

Originally Posted by zaqx

He poses better in first pic, thats bout it, he should get his elbows up in the second pic and it would look much better than the first.

i dont know, Branch looked pretty good this year at the Arnold..
Its a bummer he wont be at the Olympia

[1987GN]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

no he does make a point.


if a guy like branch warren gets big by sucking on his big toe, then dammit...branch warrens body results in hypertrophy from sucking on his big toe.(analogy obviously.)

his training style is HIS style, and in my opinion, it has done him DAMN well.


anyone who disses his training style is an damn idiot because it obviously WORKED. how he tore his tricep is irrelavent.

exactly.

Branch is a beast, and the dude puts in his hard work and should get his respect.

How he hurt himself is irrelevant. Unless it was ninjas.

We all know ninjas are the ultimate bane of every bodybuilder's exsistence.

[xjerseyzfinestx]

Originally Posted by TheGame76

Please list your bbing accomplishments...

So tired of people who have done nothing talking crap because they think they know it all. Have a nice day.

WOW!...speaking of bringing a old thread back around....



Calm down guy...no need to shed tears here...im a big fan of bb and yes i was just bein sarcastic with a little sense of humor and I myself actually looked at the way he trains and in alot of peoples minds that seen him feel the same way as i do...its terrible but YES its worked for him which counts...im not bashing here.....


and about my bb accomplishments..do i really need any to participate in forum activity? NO.... I train hard on a constant basis(5 times a week) and work as hard as anyone else that puts all effort into it.....but if you want to consider 90 pounds weight lose not really an accomplishment than i beg to differ......dont plan on getting into competing but BB is one of my favorite sports and i appreciate all the pros..but still have opinions on each and every one of them....chill out

[lancs_hotpot]

Originally Posted by captainhorseboy

too bad he's not dorian or else he'd still have a chance at winning the whole thing

(too soon?)

He'll never be as good as Dorian as long as he lives.

[kcb5150]

It is usually the most innocent little things that create the most heinous injuries....

[Oz_Rider]

Originally Posted by 1987GN

exactly.

Branch is a beast, and the dude puts in his hard work and should get his respect.

How he hurt himself is irrelevant. Unless it was ninjas.

We all know ninjas are the ultimate bane of every bodybuilder's exsistence.

hahaha repped!! gotta watch out for them ninjas!!

Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot

He'll never be as good as Dorian as long as he lives.

true that, tho i think he is rapidly catching up in the torn muscle count, both biceps and now a tricep aswell, im sure there are others ive missed!!

[SameOlG081]

Damn, first Victor, then Kai, now Branch... who's next?