N.O. Explode Vs. N.A.N.O Vapor

[boettr90]

When it comes to comparing nano vapor to NO-Xplode, you really can't draw comparisons. Vapor is a culmination of a NO product and fat-burning thermogenics and there is no way you can convince me that all of the ingredients included in that product are all going to work.

IMHO muscletech's products are all marketing and no substance. I've used both, and to be honest, I am a fan of BSN products. They just seem to have a better concept overall and I like the fact that most of thier products are low calorie. This allows for more calories to be spent on ACTUAL nutrition.

[danaznasm]

I'm with you on that one. It's disconcerting when they can come out with a new magic supplement every month it seems. I tried their AKIC stack and had nothing but problems. Vomiting, light headedness, general health decline.

[boettr90]

I think a lot of the time people fall into the marketing traps of a lot of these companies and forget about what these supplements are actually doing.

In the big picture, supplementation only accounts for about 5-7 percent of musclebuilding. The rest is nutrition and gut-wrenching workouts. And there's no powder or pill that can do that for you.

On that note, what are everybody's thoughts on Gaspari's SuperPump? I've heard nothing but good things and judging by the label it doesn't seem to be the glorified red bull + creatine that NO-Xplode is.

[butlerb]

I switched from NO-Shotgun to the nano vapor/anabolic halo stack...and wow, what a good change. I never got the crash, maybe due to the anabolic halo, but i'm not sure. The crash may also be mental in some cases, but i'm by far an expert. Just had a good experience with it. My strength went up in all lifts after one bottle. Good product IMO.

[HulkHagen]

I liked NO-Xplode better. I think I got a bad batch of the NaNO Vapor though.

[drooks10]

I've tried them both and NANO Vapor is way better in my opinion, both in ingredient profile and delivery in the gym. I always swore I would never use a MT product due to their ridiculous ads, but I decided to give this product a try since it was on sale here. I really have liked it (I hate having to admit it though)!

[VictorTenuta]

boettr90,

I assure you, no one in our industry devotes more to research and product development than Team MuscleTech - bar none. With a multi-million dollar research budget to develop the best supplements on the planet, we support the claims we make on the ingredients in our products with real clinical studies. In fact, research conducted at the University of Florida, the University of Glasgow, the University of Denmark, the University of Saskatchewan and the University of Nottingham (to name only a small few), has been used to create industry leading products such as GAKIC Hardcore, ANABOLIC HALO, Cell-Tech Hardcore and Nitro-Tech Hardcore.

As well, we've funded over 100 research studies and abstracts. Also, MuscleTech products are subject to an ongoing quality-control program that includes having every lot of every product tested for various elements.

Below, I've posted just a few of the human clinical studies, conducted at leading research institutes, that support the ingredients in MuscleTech supplements. Please check them out for yourself. Again, here are just a few of them:

Hydroxycut Hardcore
Berube-Parent, S. et al. (2005). Br J Nutr. 94(3):432.
Nagao, T. et al. (2005). Am J Clin Nutr. 81(1):122.
Oben , J. et al. (2007). Lipids Health Dis. 6:4.
Dulloo, A. et al. (1999). Am J Clin Nutr. 70(6):1040.

Cell-Tech Hardcore
Kalman, D., et al. (2000). Med Sci Sports Exerc. 32(5):s136

Nitro-Tech Hardcore
Swain, M., G., et al. (2000). J. Amer. Coll. Nutr. 19(5):A706

LEUKIC Hardcore
Karlsson et al., Am J Physiology Endocrinol Metab. 207: E1-E7. (2004).
Nasser, E., et al., J Int Sociology Sports Nutrition. 4:14. (2007).

Of course, if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.

Thanks,
Victor

[fromal]

ive been taking nano vapor pre workout, cell tech hardcore post workout.

been seeing good results.
and almost never feel sore during or after workout.
nano vapor is a great product. never tried no xplode but im sure it is a good NO product as well from what i have heard.

my advice is try one, if you like it stick to it. if you dont, try the other

[Michael1218]

What do you think about NO2??? It makes me hold alot of water but are the drink mixes a better buy? Like Vapor and No-Xplode??

[Michael1218]

I tried the old Leukic and It was Ok I was taking it with NO2.. If I were to spend money on a muscletech product wich would be the best one for muscle gains?

[danaznasm]

NO2 is for more of an all day effect. Increased blood flow means better nutrient delivery. I've tried it, but always find myself missing doses during the day as my schedule is usually pretty hectic (military, thats why). Preworkout drinks will give you a better workout, greater pumps, but there's always the risks that are associated with them. NO2 throughout the day is better for recovery as long as you're diet is right.

However, NO2 will also give you a somewhat better workout but I tried nitrix for over a year and only felt a minimal difference when I came off it. Would have rather saved my money.

[boettr90]

Originally Posted by VictorTenuta

boettr90,

I assure you, no one in our industry devotes more to research and product development than Team MuscleTech - bar none. With a multi-million dollar research budget to develop the best supplements on the planet, we support the claims we make on the ingredients in our products with real clinical studies. In fact, research conducted at the University of Florida, the University of Glasgow, the University of Denmark, the University of Saskatchewan and the University of Nottingham (to name only a small few), has been used to create industry leading products such as GAKIC Hardcore, ANABOLIC HALO, Cell-Tech Hardcore and Nitro-Tech Hardcore.

As well, we've funded over 100 research studies and abstracts. Also, MuscleTech products are subject to an ongoing quality-control program that includes having every lot of every product tested for various elements.

Below, I've posted just a few of the human clinical studies, conducted at leading research institutes, that support the ingredients in MuscleTech supplements. Please check them out for yourself. Again, here are just a few of them:

Hydroxycut Hardcore
Berube-Parent, S. et al. (2005). Br J Nutr. 94(3):432.
Nagao, T. et al. (2005). Am J Clin Nutr. 81(1):122.
Oben , J. et al. (2007). Lipids Health Dis. 6:4.
Dulloo, A. et al. (1999). Am J Clin Nutr. 70(6):1040.

Cell-Tech Hardcore
Kalman, D., et al. (2000). Med Sci Sports Exerc. 32(5):s136

Nitro-Tech Hardcore
Swain, M., G., et al. (2000). J. Amer. Coll. Nutr. 19(5):A706

LEUKIC Hardcore
Karlsson et al., Am J Physiology Endocrinol Metab. 207: E1-E7. (2004).
Nasser, E., et al., J Int Sociology Sports Nutrition. 4:14. (2007).

Of course, if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.

Thanks,
Victor

Thanks for that info Victor. I'm still not going to buy MT. Price gouging just really isn't my thing.

[boettr90]

Originally Posted by fromal

ive been taking nano vapor pre workout, cell tech hardcore post workout.

been seeing good results.
and almost never feel sore during or after workout.

If you're not sore after working out -- at least to some degree -- you're not working hard enough, bud.

[Tolerance]

Originally Posted by boettr90

Thanks for that info Victor. I'm still not going to buy MT. Price gouging just really isn't my thing.

fkn LAWL

[TheFugitive]

My experience with the first generation of NO Explode was horrible, the crash and headache's were unbearable, I'm afraid to try the newer version, currently using NO Shotgun v3 and loving it.

[soty4920]

I have taken both naNO Vapor and N.O Xplode and I prefer N.O Xplode. I love the pumps that N.O Xplode gave me. I started using Black Powder from MRI as my pre-workout and stack it with Finadex and Kre-Alkalyn......the results are friggin amazing. I have gained a solid 8lbs in 2 full weeks and the intensity this stack gives me is something I have never received from any other stacks that I have tried. If you want to hit the gym for a good solid 3 hours without feeling any fatigue, this stack is the way to go.

[bryan101b]

I have used no explode, dymatize xpand, and no2 and just started a tub of super pump 250. I had planned on trying out the na.no vapor also, ive seen alot of mixed reviews about it, the xpand had a chalky after taste to it, and gave me a head ache if i took more than one serving a day, so far I liked the no explode the best I had great energy, during and after my workout, no crash, and the pumps i got were huge, the superpump 250 has done what it said it was gonna do, my weight dropped after the first couple of times i used it, and my wife noticed it. but im going to stick it out and then i'll get back with those results. But in the end, different result for people. The m.t. rep sounds cool, but i would never expect a rep for any product to say anything negative about the products they are pushing.......

[Unit3Tank]

They are both sh*t, people get NaNo so they look like jay cutler, ppl get no xplode so they look like coleman....NEXT BSN and Next! MuscleTech

[snakehips31]

I have used both and, other then almost ****ting my pants after I took it, NO Xplode was the better product.

[bryan101b]

Originally Posted by Unit3Tank

They are both sh*t, people get NaNo so they look like jay cutler, ppl get no xplode so they look like coleman....NEXT BSN and Next! MuscleTech

I dont buy any product to look like any of those dudes, I buy products based of what on the label and user reviews. I haven't bought the nano vapor because i've read it will make you crash, but the idea is still up. I'm almost done with my sp250 and liked the results, but think I am going to stick with the no explode.

[jopo31]

While BSN's No-Xplode is probably the most popular pre-workout supplement available there is just too much caffine per serving... i beleive roughly 300mg per scoop and i have heard alot of people saying that they build up a tollerence quickly towards it and have to increase to 4-5 scoops just to feel anything.... While i will be the first one to say that Nano Vapor by Muscletech tastes horrible and does have a fair amount of caffine in it as well due to all of the other properties i have not heard of an increased tolerence as quickly. Just due to these reasons i have given i would have to go with Nano Vapor being the better product as long as you can get it down.

[Celticoitaliano]

Hey Im def. not going to say its the best product in the world but it has def. given me an extra boost during my workout and has made it alot more productive. I would say stick to N.O. Xplode, it works pretty well.

[danaznasm]

Originally Posted by jopo31

While BSN's No-Xplode is probably the most popular pre-workout supplement available there is just too much caffine per serving... i beleive roughly 300mg per scoop and i have heard alot of people saying that they build up a tollerence quickly towards it and have to increase to 4-5 scoops just to feel anything.... While i will be the first one to say that Nano Vapor by Muscletech tastes horrible and does have a fair amount of caffine in it as well due to all of the other properties i have not heard of an increased tolerence as quickly. Just due to these reasons i have given i would have to go with Nano Vapor being the better product as long as you can get it down.

Exactly. After the VERY FIRST dose of NO-Xplode I had to start upping the dosage. Even then I never had that first rush of "whoa! this **** is amazing!"
Did No-Xplode, did Vapor, did SP250 (which was my favorite for awhile), but now I'm on White Flood and haven't found anything better. That one just gives amazing pumps with nothing on the negative.

[Ryanmcd]

Originally Posted by jopo31

While BSN's No-Xplode is probably the most popular pre-workout supplement available there is just too much caffine per serving... i beleive roughly 300mg per scoop and i have heard alot of people saying that they build up a tollerence quickly towards it and have to increase to 4-5 scoops just to feel anything.... While i will be the first one to say that Nano Vapor by Muscletech tastes horrible and does have a fair amount of caffine in it as well due to all of the other properties i have not heard of an increased tolerence as quickly. Just due to these reasons i have given i would have to go with Nano Vapor being the better product as long as you can get it down.

It's about the same as a cup of coffee, 80mg if I remember correctly.

[Ryanmcd]

NO-Xplode hands down and I tried 4-5 different ones, most dont do **** and I had to remember if I took it or not.

[TheShred]

Ive gone through like 7 tubs of No xplode,
ive still got some left because i stopped taking it..
i also tried SP250..which didnt work as well as no xplode,
Also i tried the new kind with AVPT, and it sucked.
i dont know, but i dont really do pre workout supps anymore,
just diet, and a protein supp.

Also have any of you experience really bad flushing of the face while taking these?

[rucnne1]

i must say i a bit surprised on the oppinions of these 2 products. i have taken no Xplode for a lilttle over a year. and ive stuck with it, as it worked best for me as ive tried over 7 no product through out the years.

i got a 3 day sample of Vapor and used it 3days straight.
i feel it didnt give quite as much as a pump, but a far better mental focus, and intensity.
and usually when you get sample packs, theres just not enough product to give an solid oppinion on, examples: purple wrath, protien supps, and many no products, but as soon as i took the first dose of vapor, it was the real deal.

i still am a true believe of Xplode. but i will definetly be trying a tub of vapor.


SIDE NOTE: i was on aware of the deprsseion side affects of no xplode. i am glad i read this thread today, cause i have been on Paxil for 5 years now, do to anxiety,depression, and bi polor, the paxil works wonders, and keeping my mood steady, and increase my self confidence, however while im on xplode, i do feel very insecure, and have a hard to time even talking, feel like everyones talking about me in gym, it feels as if im missed 2 days worth of my meds.
i was on aware it was coming from my no xplode, i just thought it was time to up my dosage of paxil.
however this horrible feeling only last for about 4-5 hours after i take no product.

so perhaps once my current tub is empty i will be switching to vapor for good

[Ryanmcd]

Originally Posted by rucnne1

i must say i a bit surprised on the oppinions of these 2 products. i have taken no Xplode for a lilttle over a year. and ive stuck with it, as it worked best for me as ive tried over 7 no product through out the years.

i got a 3 day sample of Vapor and used it 3days straight.
i feel it didnt give quite as much as a pump, but a far better mental focus, and intensity.
and usually when you get sample packs, theres just not enough product to give an solid oppinion on, examples: purple wrath, protien supps, and many no products, but as soon as i took the first dose of vapor, it was the real deal.

i still am a true believe of Xplode. but i will definetly be trying a tub of vapor.


SIDE NOTE: i was on aware of the deprsseion side affects of no xplode. i am glad i read this thread today, cause i have been on Paxil for 5 years now, do to anxiety,depression, and bi polor, the paxil works wonders, and keeping my mood steady, and increase my self confidence, however while im on xplode, i do feel very insecure, and have a hard to time even talking, feel like everyones talking about me in gym, it feels as if im missed 2 days worth of my meds.
i was on aware it was coming from my no xplode, i just thought it was time to up my dosage of paxil.
however this horrible feeling only last for about 4-5 hours after i take no product.

so perhaps once my current tub is empty i will be switching to vapor for good

you may want to run that by a Doc, I know when you take meds that alter you mental state you have to be very carefull what you add in the mix.

[DGJ08]

Originally Posted by Tolerance

weird you say that... im not the type to fight at all if a confrontation ever came about, but when i was on this stuff idk, it got me more angry and i just didnt care about ****. Noxplode definitely gets to you.

haha, wow. Everyone told me I was way more aggressive while i cycled it too...never really took the NO xplode into consideration for that though

[BoxterMike]

Originally Posted by Future1King

Pros: 1. Great mental focus
2. Killer pumps
3. Better overall energized feeling while lifting

Cons: 1. A lot of anxiety
2. Major depressed feelings
3. Nearly committed suicide because of it (not joking)
4. Stressed out constantly
5. Increase rates in nervousness, irritability, and heart beat

Woah, that happened to me after drinking a bottle of Endorush at one sitting. Except just thought about #3