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Old 06-22-2008, 09:09 PM   #361
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Numbers are still moving up, and on a routine you've been on for several months. You have obviously found a training style that fits you- some guys never do! How about your bodyweight; are you seeing steady increase? Keep hammerin'. Later...
I periodise my training in an effort to keep the numbers moving up and as a lot of the exercises were new to me when I started DC training this also helps, as I always seem to make better gains when starting out a new exercise.

Body weight is increasing I post it in this thread once a week, scroll up and you will see a list of my bodyweight for the last few months or so.

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Old 06-24-2008, 02:22 AM   #362
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BB Decline Bench Press : Rep Range 11-15
LT : 72.5 (159.5) x 8+3+2=13 RP
TT : 75 (165) x 7+3+2=12 RP (Static hold last rep)
Extreme chest stretch

Arnold Press : Rep Range 11-15
LT : 23.5 (52) x 7+3+1=11 RP
TT : 25 (55) x 7+3+2=12 RP (static hold last rep)
Extreme shoulder stretch

Dips : Rep Range 15-20
LT : BW + 2.5 (5.5) x 10+5+2=17 RP
TT : BW + 5 (11) x 10+4+3=17 RP (static hold last rep)
Extreme tricep stretch

Rack Chin ups to front : Rep Range 15-20
LT : BW + 2.5 (5.5) x 10+4+3=17 RP
TT : BW + 5 (11) x 11+5+3=19 RP
Extreme back stretch

DB Rows : Rep Ranges 6-9 and 9-12
LT : 47.5 (104.5) x 6 (each arm) SS and 42.5 (93.5) x 8 (each arm)
TT : 47.5 (104.5) x 6 (each arm) SS and 42.5 (93.5) x 8 (each arm)


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I think I've done my dash on db rows, the progress has come to a screaming halt (and the form was pretty ordinary today), time for a new back thickness exercise.

Happy with all the other exercises, some real arm shakers for the last reps.

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Old 06-24-2008, 07:46 AM   #363
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Hey, good morning! What are you going to sub-in for the dumbbell rows? Looks like everything else is still moving. Keep poundin'! Later...
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:25 AM   #364
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Nice work. Good thought dumping the DB rows if they aren't working for you right now. There are lots of great back exercises. I have more trouble deciding what not to do vs. what to do when it comes to back training. Don't want to over-do, but there are so many good ones.
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:35 PM   #365
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Hey, good morning! What are you going to sub-in for the dumbbell rows? Looks like everything else is still moving. Keep poundin'! Later...
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Nice work. Good thought dumping the DB rows if they aren't working for you right now. There are lots of great back exercises. I have more trouble deciding what not to do vs. what to do when it comes to back training. Don't want to over-do, but there are so many good ones.
Thanks guys, I'll take suggestions, I'm after a good back thickness exercise. I train at home, have a bench, power cage, lat tower, db's and bb's.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:11 AM   #366
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Nice work! You are showing some excellent progress. Keep pushing yourself and train hard!
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You're cranking out some really nice numbers! What's next for the back? So many great exercises to choose from!
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Thanks guys, I'll take suggestions, I'm after a good back thickness exercise. I train at home, have a bench, power cage, lat tower, db's and bb's.
Well, let's see. There's barbell rows, probably the best back thickener going, but a bit difficult to get the form correct. Then, if you've got a low pulley on your lat machine, there's cable rows, with as many variations as you have different handles. There's also V-bar rows, old-school for sure, and more middle-upper back, but they hit the back in a unique way. Just for variety's sake, I'd suggest you do whatever you didn't do, before the dumbbell rows. Just my 2c. As long as whatever you do, you hit HARD, it'll all work out. Later...
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Nice work! You are showing some excellent progress. Keep pushing yourself and train hard!
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You're cranking out some really nice numbers! What's next for the back? So many great exercises to choose from!
Thanks Kevin, I don't know yet, maybe bb rows, although I did plateau on these before I started DC

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Well, let's see. There's barbell rows, probably the best back thickener going, but a bit difficult to get the form correct. Then, if you've got a low pulley on your lat machine, there's cable rows, with as many variations as you have different handles. There's also V-bar rows, old-school for sure, and more middle-upper back, but they hit the back in a unique way. Just for variety's sake, I'd suggest you do whatever you didn't do, before the dumbbell rows. Just my 2c. As long as whatever you do, you hit HARD, it'll all work out. Later...
Thanks Ironwill, great advice as usual. My lat tower doesnt allow for any sort of low pulley moves.
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ALL WEIGHTS IN KILOGRAMS (POUNDS IN BRACKETS)

April 5, 2008 : 87.9 (193.38)
April 12, 2008 : 88.2 (194.04)
April 19, 2008 : 89.3 (196.46)
April 25, 2008 : 89.9 (197.78)
* cut out carbs after 6pm
May 2, 2008 : 89.4 (196.68)
May 9, 2008 : 89.1 (196.02)
May 16, 2008 : 89.4 (196.68)
* week of cruising
May 22, 2008 : 89.9 (197.78)
May 29, 2008 : 89.6 (197.12)
June 4, 2008 : 90.1 (198.22)
* a few days away and too much unhealthy food and alcohol
June 11, 2008 : 91 (200.2)
June 18, 2008 : 90.5 (199.1)
June 25, 2008 : 91.4 (201.01)

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Old 06-25-2008, 11:53 PM   #371
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DC Training : Setting Baselines (RP=rest pause SS=straight set)

TT = this time
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BB Preacher Curls - Rep Range 15-20 RP
LT : 26 (57) x 8+4+4=16 RP
TT : 27.5 (60.5) x 9+3+3=15 RP (static hold last rep)

DB Hammer Curls - Rep Range SS 12-20
LT : 15 (33) x 13 SS
TT : 16 (35) x 13 SS (slow negative last rep)
Extreme bicep stretch

Standing DB Calf Raise - Rep Range SS 10-12
LT : 40 (88) x 9 SS
TT : 40 (88) x 10 SS

Lying Leg Curls - Rep Range 20-30 RP
LT : 57.5 (126.5) x 9+4+3=16 RP
TT : 57.5 (126.4) x 8+5+3=16 RP
Extreme hamstring stretch

BB Hack Squat - Rep Ranges 6-10 SS and 20 Rep Widowmaker
LT : 115 (253) x 9 SS AND 75 (165) x 20 SS
TT : 117.5 (258.5) x 10 SS AND 77.5 (170.5) x 20 SS
Extreme quad stretch

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Good morning! I've been following your weigh-ins with interest. I'm seeing almost a 7 pound increase in 3 months. What's your bodyfat doing? A 2 pound increase a month is practically text-book weight gain; you should be pretty pleased with your progress.
Back in the day, Mike Mentzer used, and wrote about rest/pause. I'd like to try DC training, but feel that at my advanced age, and increasing need for recovery, I'd push myself into overtraining quickly. What you're doing sure looks like it's working for you, though.
Keep on. Later...
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Good morning! I've been following your weigh-ins with interest. I'm seeing almost a 7 pound increase in 3 months. What's your bodyfat doing? A 2 pound increase a month is practically text-book weight gain; you should be pretty pleased with your progress.
Back in the day, Mike Mentzer used, and wrote about rest/pause. I'd like to try DC training, but feel that at my advanced age, and increasing need for recovery, I'd push myself into overtraining quickly. What you're doing sure looks like it's working for you, though.
Keep on. Later...
Thanks Ironwill, my bodyfat is slightly higher than it was before I started DC training, but not much and a little bit less than when I started training altogether (keeping in mind I am a bit of an ecto).

Progress with DC is very pleasing, the rest pause is great for intensity and I do feel like I am making solid progress and working hard.

Thanks again for your comments Ironwill it is a pleasure to have you on board.
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LT = last time

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Decline Crunches/ partial situps
LT : BW (BW) x 20 + 17 + 16 SS
TT : BW (BW) x 20 + 20 + 20 SS


Decline Reverse Crunch
LT : FIRST TIME FOR THIS EXERCISE
TT : BW (BW) x 12 + 11 + 10 SS


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The decline reverse crunches were hard work and felt good.

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Time to add some weight to the decline partial sit ups.
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I have decided to replace db rows with reverse grip bb rows for back thickness. If I worked out at a gym I might try something altogether different, but this will be interesting as I haven't tried bb rows like this before.
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Good morning, alkell. If you haven't used a reverse grip on barbell rows before, it will be interesting to hear what you think about them.
Using a curl grip will really tax your biceps tendons, on the inside of your elbows; be sure to REALLY warm-up , maybe with LIGHT barbell curls, before you row heavy weight this way. Good luck with them; have a great weekend! Later...
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Agreed but......be careful doing them this way Al where you've already done bi work prior to the row work. It could end up being like the drag curls a while back where your forearms were giving out before your bi's were fatigued.

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Good morning, alkell. If you haven't used a reverse grip on barbell rows before, it will be interesting to hear what you think about them.
Using a curl grip will really tax your biceps tendons, on the inside of your elbows; be sure to REALLY warm-up , maybe with LIGHT barbell curls, before you row heavy weight this way. Good luck with them; have a great weekend! Later...
Thanks for the advice Ironwill, I have had some trouble in the past with inside elbow pain, so I will make sure I warm up well.

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Agreed but......be careful doing them this way Al where you're already do bi work prior to the row work. It could end up being like the drag curls a while back where your forearms were giving out before your bi's were fatigued.

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Thanks Ed, that makes good sense. I would like to give seated cable rows or t -bar rows a go, but don't have the equipment.
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Pretty tired at the start of this workout, did it on one of my days of rest as my family were away (that way when I get home from work tonight I can spend some time with my family instead of working out).

In hindsight I think my grip was a bit narrow on the seated military presses, not a good workout for those. Wasn't focussed, form was rubbish, not happy Jan!

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Nice work, Al, even if the seated military press wasn't what you hoped for. A slight change in grip can sometimes make a big difference. The incline press looks great. I love the static hold on the end; I add that to the end of some of my sets and really feel it.
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Nice work, Al, even if the seated military press wasn't what you hoped for. A slight change in grip can sometimes make a big difference. The incline press looks great. I love the static hold on the end; I add that to the end of some of my sets and really feel it.
Thanks mate. The static hold really helps to push you that extra bit and make the muscle really ache (in a good way) I love 'em!
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Thanks for the advice Ironwill, I have had some trouble in the past with inside elbow pain, so I will make sure I warm up well.
Me too; that's why I'm pretty fussy about the warming-up thing! Tendons and ligaments are notoriously slow healers.

Good work on the deadlifts; keep pushin'! Later...
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Well it's time for a cruise, really struggled through the last 2 workouts and I am currently 2 employees down at work so I am working 8 of 9 days at the moment. The joys of owning your own business

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Agreed but......be careful doing them this way Al where you've already done bi work prior to the row work. It could end up being like the drag curls a while back where your forearms were giving out before your bi's were fatigued.

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Great job on the workouts!! You're looking great in your avatar!! I hope life has been treating you well. It sounds like work is keeping you busy!
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Good work, alkell; by cruise, do you mean a vacation? Just curious.

Work issues can be a real drag; put up with forced overtime, occasional 12 hour tours for nearly 30 years with the phone company, before I retired. You just gotta do what ya gotta do!

If, in fact, you're going on vacation, have a restful time. Later...
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Good work, alkell; by cruise, do you mean a vacation? Just curious.

Work issues can be a real drag; put up with forced overtime, occasional 12 hour tours for nearly 30 years with the phone company, before I retired. You just gotta do what ya gotta do!

If, in fact, you're going on vacation, have a restful time. Later...
Thanks Ironwill. Cruise is a term DCers use for an easy week of lifting. In other words cut the weight back, don't take any sets to failure, drop a workout if you feel so inclined, just a week of recovery really.
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Thanks Ironwill. Cruise is a term DCers use for an easy week of lifting. In other words cut the weight back, don't take any sets to failure, drop a workout if you feel so inclined, just a week of recovery really.
LOL! Okay. I call it a "light week", or a deload week. Whatever you name it, it's a good idea. I've posted, (probably TOO often), about my aversion to taking time off, and my way around it. I'll leave it at that, in your journal thread!

So, no vacation? Time to get back to work then? Later...
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