Loose skin

[ctrain10]

Can I get some feedback on how to tighten loose skin on women in their 40's & 50's that are in great shape(slender), but have loose skin and not a lot of Bodyfat?

[KimberleyRN]

Well, I fit that description (mostly).

I went for a consultation with a plastic surgeon. They said a skin only tummy tuck would leave me with more of a scar than was warranted for the little flesh I have there.

They suggested a 'tightening' laser treatment, but it is so new that I am apprehensive.

If you find a real answer, let me know and I will owe you BIGTIME!

[NotTooLate]

Other than Kimberly's suggestion there isn't anything. I'm in the same boat. If ti's from weight loss time will tighten it a bit but not significantly.

[britonarius]

Strikes me the only solution is to build muscle into the areas of looseness once occupied by fat. As skin is able to recede - i think that it will shrink over a period of time - maybe not enough to fully tighten but with regular massage to the area - i think it will tighten enough to unnoticable.

[Tifflex]

Originally Posted by britonarius

Strikes me the only solution is to build muscle into the areas of looseness once occupied by fat. As skin is able to recede - i think that it will shrink over a period of time - maybe not enough to fully tighten but with regular massage to the area - i think it will tighten enough to unnoticable.

I agree Britonarius. I've lost a considerable amount of weight and have added muscle to fill out the loose skin.

[Nikonguy]

Originally Posted by britonarius

Strikes me the only solution is to build muscle into the areas of looseness once occupied by fat. As skin is able to recede - i think that it will shrink over a period of time - maybe not enough to fully tighten but with regular massage to the area - I think it will tighten enough to unnoticable.

I think it will depend on many factors including age and how much one has abused their skin over a lifetime (too much sun and yo-yo dieting come to mind).

I'm having loose skin problems (and it will get worse as I get closer to my target BF%) and I too have been thinking along the same lines as britonarius. My inner thighs are showing loose skin quite a bit and I'm wondering if really, REALLY building my quads will help in that department. Traps, shoulders and upper chest for sagging chest skin is another example. And if it doesn't work but I get strength and fitness in the process it's still a good deal.

[Chipman]

This is completely stolen from Venuto's "Loose skin blues". It covers all the bases very well. Hope it helps

There are 12 things you should know about loose skin after very large weight losses:
Skin is incredibly elastic. Just look at what women go through during pregnancy. Skin has the ability to expand and contract to a remarkable degree.
Elasticity of skin tends to decrease with age. Wrinkling and loss of elasticity is partly the consequence of aging (genetic factors) and also a result of environmental factors such as oxidative stress, excessive sun exposure, and nutritional deficiency. The environmental parts you can fix, the genetics and age part, you cannot. Advice: Get moving and change the things you have control over... Be realistic and don't worry about those things you don't have control over.
How much your skin will return to its former tautness depends partly on age.The older you get, the more an extremely large weight loss can leave loose skin that will not return to normal
How long you carry extra weight has a lot to do with how much the skin will become taut after the weight loss: For example, compare a 9 month pregnancy with 9 years carrying 100 excess pounds.
How much weight was carried has a lot to do with how much the skin will resume a tight appearance. Your skin can only be stretched so much and be expected to "snap back" one hundred percent.
How fast the weight was gained also has a lot to do with how much the skin will resume a tight appearance. Your skin can only be stretched so quickly and be expected to "snap back."
How fast weight is lost also has a lot to do with how much the skin will tighten up. Rapid weight loss doesn't allow the skin time to slowly resume to normal. (yet another reason to lose fat slowly; 1 to 2 pounds per week, 3 pounds at the most if you have a lot of weight to lose, and even then, only if you are measuring body fat and you?re certain it's fat you?re losing, not lean tissue).
There are exceptions to all of the above; i.e, people who gained and then lost incredible amounts of weight quickly at age 50 or 60, and their skin returned 100% to normal.
There are many creams advertised as having the ability to restore the tightness of your skin. None work ? at least not permanently and measurably ? and especially if you have a lot of loose skin. Don't waste your money.
If you?re considering surgical skin removal, consult a physician for advice because this is not a minor operation, but keep in mind that your plastic surgeon may be making his BMW payments with your abdominoplasty money. (Surgery may be recommended in situations where it's not 100% necessary). Surgery should be left as the ABSOLUTE FINAL option in extreme cases.
Give your skin time. Your skin will get tighter as your body fat gets lower. I've seen and heard of many cases where the skin gradually tightened up, at least partially, after a one or two year period where the weight loss was maintained and exercise continued.
Know your body fat percentage before even THINKING about surgery. Loose skin is one thing, but still having body fat is another. Be honest with yourself and do that by taking your body fat measurement. This can be done with skinfold calipers or a variety of other devices (calipers might not be the best method if you have large folds of loose skin. Look into impedance analysis, underwater weighing, DEXA or Bod Pod).

Suppose for example, a man drops from 35% body fat all the way down to 20%. He should be congratulated, but I would tell him, "Don't bitch about loose skin, your body fat is still high. Press onward and keep getting leaner.?

Average body fat for men is in the mid teens (16% or so) Good body fat for men is 10-12%, and single digits is extremely lean (men shouldn?t expect to look ?ripped? with 100% tight skin on the abs unless they have single digit body fat, and women low teens).

Except in extreme cases, you are very unlikely to see someone with loose skin who has very low body fat. It's quite remarkable how much your skin can tighten up and literally start to ?cling? to your abdominal muscles once your body fat goes from ?average? to "excellent." Someone with legitimate single digit body fat and a ton of loose skin is a rare sight.
So... the key to getting tighter skin is to lose more body fat, up to the point where your body composition rating is BETTER than average (in the ?good? to ?great? category, not just "okay"). Only AFTER you reach your long term body fat percentage goal should you give thought to "excess skin removal." At that point, admittedly, there are bound to be a few isolated cases where surgery is necessary if you can?t live with the amount of loose skin remaining.

However, unless you are really, really lean, it's difficult to get a clear picture of what is loose skin, what is just remaining body fat and how much further the skin will tighten up when the rest of the fat is lost.

[DrBermant]

Originally Posted by ctrain10

Can I get some feedback on how to tighten loose skin on women in their 40's & 50's that are in great shape(slender), but have loose skin and not a lot of Bodyfat?

Standard Pictures can demonstrate the degree of remaining fat and loose tissues after weight loss.

Losing weight can help deal with fat. Body building can help build and strengthen muscles.

Skin sags and tissues droop after significant weight loss. Fat inside the abdominal cavity can stretch muscles and their covering fascia connective tissue. Fat under the skin stretches the connective fibers holding the skin to the deeper tissues.

After pregnancy, there also can be loose hanging tissues. This issue is from the infant(s) stretching tissue.

How well tissues recover depend on how long the tissue has been stretched, how many times has it been abused, and to what degree. Length of time stretched in pregnancy is usually a fraction of the problem for obesity. Being patient can help but eventually, the recovery process ends and many are left with loose hanging tissues that just do not look good.

The actual stretched tissue can include fascia, skin, and a network of suspending fibers in the fat layer (called the Superficial Fascia Suspension System) all of which I target during my tissue lifting surgery.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
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