havoc cycle

[xtabarnakx]

Hi guys, I decided to start my cycle in approx. 2 weeks! And I wanted to know if I'm in the right way or not!! thanks a lot!

PRE-CYCLE:
SISU milk thistle 1-2 caps / 1 week
Hawthorn Berry 3 caps / 1 week

CYCLE:
HAVOC (RPN) Cycle:
WEEK 1 (10 mgs day 1-2, 20mgs day 4-7) / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps
WEEK 2 - 20mg / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps
WEEK 3 - 30mg / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps
WEEK 4 - 30mg / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps

CYCLE SUPPORT:
SISU milk thistle 3 caps
Glucosamine 5mg/day
Pantothenic Acid (Vit.B5) 500mg/day

PCT:
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)
Week 1 40mg (day 1-3 - 20mgs day 4-7) / Retain2 3 caps
Week 2 20mg / Retain2 3 caps
Week 3 20mg / Retain2 3 caps / Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1
Week 4 20mg / Retain2 3 caps / Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1
Week 5 Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1
Week 6 Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1

***SISU milk thistle...rest of the bottle

OTHER SUPPS:
Omega 3 6 caps/day
Multi-vit. 1-2 caps/day

[Androgen]

looks very good.

Add in some NAC for your liver support as it is questionable as to whether milk thistle actually helps to protect the liver.

EDIT: also dont waste your time on 10 and 20mg IMO. Im on my first cycle now of epi/furaz and istart straight in at 30mg no probs and think its too low. IMO go at least 20/30/30/30

[nosnmvieins]

switch the retain 2 and activate.....retain2 should be introduced begining the 3rd week of PCT...start the activate with the Nolva

[xtabarnakx]

thanks guys, any suggestions??

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by xtabarnakx

thanks guys, any suggestions??

Honestly looks good, just make sure you get some NAC, also I agree with nosnmiveins. Also if you havent bought the supps yet maybe switch activate extreme for post cycle support by anabolic innovations. If not dont worry its good anyway

[mossman8235]

looks good. similar to what i'm doing dosage wise with my epi (havoc). i'm also planning on running nolva for PCT at the same dosage. i'd suggest picking up cycle support for your cycle, it has everything you need packaged together. just a helpful suggestion.

[xtabarnakx]

Originally Posted by tnick

Honestly looks good, just make sure you get some NAC, also I agree with nosnmiveins. Also if you havent bought the supps yet maybe switch activate extreme for post cycle support by anabolic innovations. If not dont worry its good anyway

I've bought the supps right now so I'll take the Activate but I bought some NAC! So, I think it looks good, I hope so! haha

[xtabarnakx]

Originally Posted by mossman8235

looks good. similar to what i'm doing dosage wise with my epi (havoc). i'm also planning on running nolva for PCT at the same dosage. i'd suggest picking up cycle support for your cycle, it has everything you need packaged together. just a helpful suggestion.

You think I would should to buy Cycle Support by AI ??? the milke thistle isn't enough?? But, I thought that if I bought Cycle Support it won't pass the customs to ship in Canada... :S

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by xtabarnakx

You think I would should to buy Cycle Support by AI ??? the milke thistle isn't enough?? But, I thought that if I bought Cycle Support it won't pass the customs to ship in Canada... :S

it wont i dont think, thats why i told you get NAC for liver milk thistle is junk. Or you could search beyond bb.com and get te RYR free Cycle Support which will get through customs. If not get NAC or liv52 (livercare) and hawthorne berry and you should be ok

[mossman8235]

Originally Posted by xtabarnakx

You think I would should to buy Cycle Support by AI ??? the milke thistle isn't enough?? But, I thought that if I bought Cycle Support it won't pass the customs to ship in Canada... :S

didn't see that you were in CA, my bad. just pick up some NAC like others have said and you'll be fine. other than that, everything looks great.

[xtabarnakx]

yeah ok guys thanks a lot! I just bought NAC with my other supps so I will be ok I think!!

[mossman8235]

snag some cissus too if you haven't already. i'm only on day 5 and already having joint pain. luckily i have some on hand.

[chasinSKURT]

Originally Posted by tnick

EDIT: also dont waste your time on 10 and 20mg IMO. Im on my first cycle now of epi/furaz and istart straight in at 30mg no probs and think its too low. IMO go at least 20/30/30/30

Good advice. Anything under 30 mg's is pretty worthless. Makes no sense for people to taper up to see how they react, there are NO sides at 20 mg's, including gains.

Originally Posted by mossman8235

snag some cissus too if you haven't already. i'm only on day 5 and already having joint pain. luckily i have some on hand.

Not to be a dick, but it's probably in your head. I just finished up a havoc/4-ad stack, and experienced no joint pain what so ever. But everyones different I guess.

This is why Sam-e is such a good supp to take on cycle. It's great for liver protection, joint's, mood, and acts as an anti-estrogen for PCT. Def work picking up.

[mossman8235]

Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

Not to be a dick, but it's probably in your head. I just finished up a havoc/4-ad stack, and experienced no joint pain what so ever. But everyones different I guess.

This is why Sam-e is such a good supp to take on cycle. It's great for liver protection, joint's, mood, and acts as an anti-estrogen for PCT. Def work picking up.

i've had joint pain for a while now (arthritis runs in the family) and it has gotten worse since i started my cycle. i highly doubt that it's in my head.

[xtabarnakx]

How I must take my NAC ?? During the cycle or after the cyle or in the cycle AND in the pct?!? Someone can help me please! And what's the dose for NAC??

[xtabarnakx]

bump

[SippinWhey]

Originally Posted by xtabarnakx

Hi guys, I decided to start my cycle in approx. 2 weeks! And I wanted to know if I'm in the right way or not!! thanks a lot!

PRE-CYCLE:
SISU milk thistle 1-2 caps / 1 week
Hawthorn Berry 3 caps / 1 week

CYCLE:
HAVOC (RPN) Cycle:
WEEK 1 (10 mgs day 1-2, 20mgs day 4-7) / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps
WEEK 2 - 20mg / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps
WEEK 3 - 30mg / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps
WEEK 4 - 30mg / 200mg dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA / Hawthorn Berry 3 caps

CYCLE SUPPORT:
SISU milk thistle 3 caps
Glucosamine 5mg/day
Pantothenic Acid (Vit.B5) 500mg/day

PCT:
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)
Week 1 40mg (day 1-3 - 20mgs day 4-7) / Retain2 3 caps
Week 2 20mg / Retain2 3 caps
Week 3 20mg / Retain2 3 caps / Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1
Week 4 20mg / Retain2 3 caps / Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1
Week 5 Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1
Week 6 Activate Xtreme 1-1-1-1

***SISU milk thistle...rest of the bottle

OTHER SUPPS:
Omega 3 6 caps/day
Multi-vit. 1-2 caps/day

You could save yourself a whole lot of money and go with Novedex xt by itself. I mean this is Havoc we are talking about.

[mossman8235]

better safe than sorry.

[Trauma1]

Check out the Havoc Write-up i've compiled. It should help you effectively design this cycle:

Havoc Write-up

If you have any other question feel free to fire away.