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Old 05-16-2007, 08:49 AM   #31
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I already saw the warning page blah blah.

I dont smoke, drink, or do illegal drugs. And from all i have seen and experienced I think if you take something like this responsibly and with the right support you will be just fine.

Im not going to take something illegal... and for anyone to suggest for me too is just stupid.

Ive already got the stuff, now im looking for help as to what exactly to take with it to get safe gains... thanks
REGARDLESS of the following stuff you listed, you are 19, and are too young to be using steroids. Just because you can buy it OTC, that doesn't make it healthy or safe. If you use this product, you could MESS yourself UP!
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:13 AM   #32
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Okay, you're obviously doing this either way. Bad idea. But here's how to make it a less bad idea.

1. Research. You are way behind already. Might as well know what you are putting in your body. You haven't even mentioned a SERM for pct.

2. Pick up some Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support, preload it, and run it through your cycle and pct.

3. Get a SERM. Nolva is the old standard, but many are switching to Torm.

I purposely used acronyms and abbreviations. Hopefully this will force you to do some reading on your own so you can do this as safely and educated as possible. But this should get you on the right track if you take it seriously.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:01 AM   #33
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u dont want to do anything illegal? u relise these are steroids, and i frankyl dont have a clue how these companies havent got the fda up there ass, or havent bin crimanly prosecuted yet!!!!

seorusly SERM, btw yes lots of ppl have had gyno from using these products some even with a serm, read every review here on superdrol!

It would be safer doing real juice, dont try thinking o they are legal or for sale, they must be safe, keep telling yourself you are not doing steriods. But you are! You liver take a beating from this!

your 19, i have known 19 year olds do juice even with a half decent pct, loose all there gains!, they also find it very hard to gain naturally now!

you have probably heard this before alot! but frankly as pretty as those pills look you should really reconsider! do you even know what active steroids these will turn into?

meh, its up to you but trust me every single teen i know who has juiced regrets it big time!!! when you are 30 and want kids and dont know you cant, or need a new liver think back to when you were young and gained that amazing 8lbs of muscle, worth it ?
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I already saw the warning page blah blah.

I dont smoke, drink, or do illegal drugs. And from all i have seen and experienced I think if you take something like this responsibly and with the right support you will be just fine.

Im not going to take something illegal... and for anyone to suggest for me too is just stupid.

Ive already got the stuff, now im looking for help as to what exactly to take with it to get safe gains... thanks
Exactly, i just bought sostonol today too and im already getting **** because i posted a topic about it...i got **** about how im stupid and bla bla...why do these people give a **** and why cant they just answer the question...if they dont have anything to say regarding the thread...then just look and dont talk
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Exactly, i just bought sostonol today too and im already getting **** because i posted a topic about it...i got **** about how im stupid and bla bla...why do these people give a **** and why cant they just answer the question...if they dont have anything to say regarding the thread...then just look and dont talk
You're 18 and you're a moron...that is why you're getting ****.
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Exactly, i just bought sostonol today too and im already getting **** because i posted a topic about it...i got **** about how im stupid and bla bla...why do these people give a **** and why cant they just answer the question...if they dont have anything to say regarding the thread...then just look and dont talk
It's the same people on here saying how bad this stuff is but none of them ever have anything constructive to say or even an answer. It really seems like all they do is sit here all day long and type negative responses, thus the 5000 - 7000+ posts they all have.

Take some time and just keep reading. Do some forum searches on PCT. There are a few guys out there with info that will really help! "***pimp" is one and there are others that's here for the right reason. Not just to be a keyboard warrior and expect you to know everything! I'm sick of it also!!!!
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It's the same people on here saying how bad this stuff is but none of them ever have anything constructive to say or even an answer. It really seems like all they do is sit here all day long and type negative responses, thus the 5000 - 7000+ posts they all have.

Take some time and just keep reading. Do some forum searches on PCT. There are a few guys out there with info that will really help! "***pimp" is one and there are others that's here for the right reason. Not just to be a keyboard warrior and expect you to know everything! I'm sick of it also!!!!
Yes, please continue to endorse people who are 17-19 to take steroids.

The question is of safety. IDS has a shady past, and people abusing steroids is something that can be very dangerous...especially in those under the age of 21.

I don't claim that these things are the devil, but teenagers should not be taking them, and people should not be popping these things like candy.
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Yes, please continue to endorse people who are 17-19 to take steroids.

The question is of safety. IDS has a shady past, and people abusing steroids is something that can be very dangerous...especially in those under the age of 21.

I don't claim that these things are the devil, but teenagers should not be taking them, and people should not be popping these things like candy.
I never once told him to take the stuff. What you need to remember especially you being 20, is that they will take it no matter what you say!!!! They "17-18 y.o." will smoke, drink, have sex, etc. no matter what. Instead of always saying how bad and how not to take it. Why not educate on how they can take this stuff as safely as possible. What needs to be done pre and post. That would help a lot better than just saying you are dumb and don't take it. You should know better crap. Gets very old quick!!!!!

Crap when I was 19, I tried deca, sus 250, clen b. I knew it was bad but I did it anyways and poked my ass. Most people are like that. They are here trying to find answers and not to hear what they already know. I don't have all the answers so just said to do the research and on what. I wish people even the reps on the board would just say hey, take the following post cycle and this will help. So you wont get bitch tits and smaller nuts.
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I never once told him to take the stuff. What you need to remember especially you being 20, is that they will take it no matter what you say!!!! They "17-18 y.o." will smoke, drink, have sex, etc. no matter what. Instead of always saying how bad and how not to take it. Why not educate on how they can take this stuff as safely as possible. What needs to be done pre and post. That would help a lot better than just saying you are dumb and don't take it. You should know better crap. Gets very old quick!!!!!

Crap when I was 19, I tried deca, sus 250, clen b. I knew it was bad but I did it anyways and poked my ass. Most people are like that. They are here trying to find answers and not to hear what they already know. I don't have all the answers so just said to do the research and on what. I wish people even the reps on the board would just say hey, take the following post cycle and this will help. So you wont get bitch tits and smaller nuts.
Not all people will go with these products, I've seen many people reconsider their options. Also, I think by giving them the advice on how to run a cycle, I think that's somewhat of an endorsement, and it's not something I really want to be involved in personally.

I also didn't call him dumb because he wants to take steroids, I called him dumb because he belittled someone who gave him good advice in another thread by calling him a fatass.
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I think the OP is a fool and should re-examine his diet, most guys his age THINK they eat enough but never do. Then they turn to steroids, but never do much research, at least not enough to know that they are doing steroids. Some get lucky, some don't grow any taller, some grow tits. Almost every one of of them could have made gains by fixing their diets and eating enough though...and there is much less risk in that, but its not that glamorous.
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You have your own ideas and I have much better things to do than argue over the internet. I rather make my very good 6 figure income and enjoy my view from home than sit here and have 7000 posts. No matter what I say you will keep doing the same thing and having the same post.

Plus I seen that thread as well on what he said about the guy being fat. I don't agree with what he said but the guy had it coming as well. He did the same thing as you. The kid asked a question and he got a sarcastic answer about eating. So he made a "fat" comment on a guy who is 300 pounds telling him he needs to eat... There's some humor there.
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You have your own ideas and I have much better things to do than argue over the internet. I rather make my very good 6 figure income and enjoy my view from home than sit here and have 7000 posts. No matter what I say you will keep doing the same thing and having the same post.

Plus I seen that thread as well on what he said about the guy being fat. I don't agree with what he said but the guy had it coming as well. He did the same thing as you. The kid asked a question and he got a sarcastic answer about eating. So he made a "fat" comment on a guy who is 300 pounds telling him he needs to eat... There's some humor there.
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Oh look, he decided not to take Sostonal and, in it's place, run a Havoc cycle!


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Just wondering, was the riiigghht sarcastic or are we cool??? Just checking. LOL!
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Nah we're cool man, although you were bashing me. I have no problem with you...and again, I'm not preaching, I'm honestly trying to sway teenagers away from steroids. There's plenty of info on these boards where people can find what they're looking for if they search, so the info is here...I'm just trying to help at least one person make a smarter choice.
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Nah we're cool man, although you were bashing me. I have no problem with you...and again, I'm not preaching, I'm honestly trying to sway teenagers away from steroids. There's plenty of info on these boards where people can find what they're looking for if they search, so the info is here...I'm just trying to help at least one person make a smarter choice.
Cool! For the record, my intention wasn't to bash you at all. I was trying to find some answers for myself by searching and reading and kept seeing the same type of response. For people like me who was searching, it made it very frustrating needing to read through all that stuff without getting an answer. But now I'm guilty of it also! LOL!

PS. I took some IDS "mass tabs and v-50" stuff in the past. Worked great but my wifes a nurse so she made sure I was all good. I like when she plays doctor on me... LMAO!!! Sarcasm!!!!

See ya bro and good luck with all your gains!
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Cool! For the record, my intention wasn't to bash you at all. I was trying to find some answers for myself by searching and reading and kept seeing the same type of response. For people like me who was searching, it made it very frustrating needing to read through all that stuff without getting an answer. But now I'm guilty of it also! LOL!

PS. I took some IDS "mass tabs and v-50" stuff in the past. Worked great but my wifes a nurse so she made sure I was all good. I like when she plays doctor on me... LMAO!!! Sarcasm!!!!

See ya bro and good luck with all your gains!
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Exactly, i just bought sostonol today too and im already getting **** because i posted a topic about it...i got **** about how im stupid and bla bla...why do these people give a **** and why cant they just answer the question...if they dont have anything to say regarding the thread...then just look and dont talk
ill tell you why because they are usually company reps and its not there product and they keep saying steroid steroid steroid keep the kids off steroids hoping they will get an act of congress to ban stuff.= no competition for they're supplement line. ive been reading plenty of posts and threads and the actually gave an answer on some of my experience on a product and was attacked by a swarm of company rep homos of course it wasnt there"natural test booster mass building product" so lets go on the offensive.
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It's the same people on here saying how bad this stuff is but none of them ever have anything constructive to say or even an answer. It really seems like all they do is sit here all day long and type negative responses, thus the 5000 - 7000+ posts they all have.

Take some time and just keep reading. Do some forum searches on PCT. There are a few guys out there with info that will really help! "***pimp" is one and there are others that's here for the right reason. Not just to be a keyboard warrior and expect you to know everything! I'm sick of it also!!!!
right on someone else has caught on to the game!
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Soooo I picked up a box of sostonal today, the dude at the supp shop was ravin about it, said hes takin it and lovin it and has seen nothin but good results. I figured ahh what the hell, I will pick it up and see what happens.

Welll I got home and started readin more online and im a bit confused, are there two versions of this stuff?

Mine is by IDS (weber pharm is the same thing?) but the ingredients seem to be different than what everyone else is listing... did they change the formula? Is it just different so the dea is confused or what? haha I may just be an idiot, and yall are readin different ingredients but i was lookin straight off the box and they are as follows.

3, 17-dihydroxy-4-chloro-17alpha-methyl-etioallocholan-4-ene
3, 17- dihydroxy-17-methyl-delta 1,4-etiocholanone
17-hydroxy-17-methyl-etioallocholan

they are the same red pills, foil wrap, etc

I have Purifi by Sci Fit to take with it which has milk thistle, etc to keep everything clean.

Anyone have the low down on whats up with this and if its the same stuff? Also is there anything else I should take with it while im on it besides the Purifi? I was gonna take IDS post cycle stuff when im done... just figured I would get all this info from yall since im sure u guys know better than one dude at the supp shop. Thanks in advance
I went on this sostonol 250 as an 18 yr old...i wanted to win states in weightlifting for high school..i took it for 3-4 weeks with milk thistle and everything..when i got off my stomach started hurting and **** just started to mess up with me...i was mad all the time and its just not worth it..im never going to take any ph's ever again. i took it b4 i got on this forums..i really regret not finding this site first...but if you really are considering taking sostonol i wouldnt...from experience...just looking out for ppl thats it..
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ill tell you why because they are usually company reps and its not there product and they keep saying steroid steroid steroid keep the kids off steroids hoping they will get an act of congress to ban stuff.= no competition for they're supplement line. ive been reading plenty of posts and threads and the actually gave an answer on some of my experience on a product and was attacked by a swarm of company rep homos of course it wasnt there"natural test booster mass building product" so lets go on the offensive.
Yes...because myself and the other reps in this thread have jumped on him to buy our products.

Can you show me once where we recommended company products to him?
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What I always like is when someone tells people they might as well take an illegal controlled substance instead of something you can by LEGALLY. I personally know people who have gone that route and got busted and lost jobs because of it. One was a teacher and the other was a cop. So until they are illegal that is the best option for some people who do not want to take the chance of a class c felony on their record.
Would u rather risk your health and possibly screw your self up permanently??? This stuff is 3 methylated steroids all in one produced by a company that doesn't have a clue what they are doing. Not only are you going to kill your liver, but your going to wreck havoc on your cholesterol.

If you get busted for steroids, you are a complete moron and deserve to get caught.
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I already saw the warning page blah blah.

I dont smoke, drink, or do illegal drugs. And from all i have seen and experienced I think if you take something like this responsibly and with the right support you will be just fine.

Im not going to take something illegal... and for anyone to suggest for me too is just stupid.

Ive already got the stuff, now im looking for help as to what exactly to take with it to get safe gains... thanks
Thinking you know it all...Bro you dont have a clue. Steroids are not something you can just jump into and expect to get big and stay healthy. It takes YEARS and YEARS of research to even begin to know how these powerful drugs work. From your posts, you obviously have not a clue what ur doing. And you even considering taking this proves even more you are clueless when it comes to AAS. Your setting your self up for disaster man.

You say if you take something like this responsibly you will be just fine? How are you taking it responsibly? You dont even know what the heck is in it! These OTC products are not regulated by the FDA. Atleast with steroids, you know what your taking not to mention they have been used in the medical field for decades.

I hope you have your pct all planned out. Hope you dont mind loosing your hair. I hope you like the fact you wont be able to pop a boner even if jessica simpson is naked in bed with you. Your cholesterol will be wrecked and your blood pressure will sky rocket so I hope you know what to take and what to do to protect your heart. Better have a good anti-e on hand for gyno too (Bitch tits)

Im not trying to lecture you here, Im just trying to help you make the right decision and show you how serious you can mess your self up if you dont know what ur doing..

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If you get busted for steroids, you are a complete moron and deserve to get caught.
The two people that I personally now that got busted were far from being morons one was a deputy and the other was a football coach and world champion powerlifter in his age class.
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Would u rather risk your health and possibly screw your self up permanently??? This stuff is 3 methylated steroids all in one produced by a company that doesn't have a clue what they are doing. Not only are you going to kill your liver, but your going to wreck havoc on your cholesterol.
So buying an illegal substance from someone who is not a doctor(claiming to know what it is) is safe?
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i made alot of progress natuarally from 18-21

i considered this roid a couple of months ago but decided that the real thing was safer

guy at my gym just got off of sust 250, he felt down, depressed etc
has blood tests done, his test levels are very low
he was put on hormone replacement therapy for 3 months(test gel)

if you do it, make sure it get some REAL nolvadex, not the supplement
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dude what u have is not a steroid or a pro hormone. u dont even need a serm for pct. if it had 17aa in the make up like you would see in any real pro hormone like m1t, phera plex, superdrol etc.then maybe u should do some research but man, go crazy, eat them like candy. good luck.
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Thinking you know it all...Bro you dont have a clue. Steroids are not something you can just jump into and expect to get big and stay healthy. It takes YEARS and YEARS of research to even begin to know how these powerful drugs work. From your posts, you obviously have not a clue what ur doing. And you even considering taking this proves even more you are clueless when it comes to AAS. Your setting your self up for disaster man.

You say if you take something like this responsibly you will be just fine? How are you taking it responsibly? You dont even know what the heck is in it! These OTC products are not regulated by the FDA. Atleast with steroids, you know what your taking not to mention they have been used in the medical field for decades.

I hope you have your pct all planned out. Hope you dont mind loosing your hair. I hope you like the fact you wont be able to pop a boner even if jessica simpson is naked in bed with you. Your cholesterol will be wrecked and your blood pressure will sky rocket so I hope you know what to take and what to do to protect your heart. Better have a good anti-e on hand for gyno too (Bitch tits)

Im not trying to lecture you here, Im just trying to help you make the right decision and show you how serious you can mess your self up if you dont know what ur doing..

dude just reading that tells me your a ****ing idiot. u can get raging hardons if ur running test with a steroid. **** man. figure it out. everything u just said was what my 2 year old sister could figure out from 2 hours of reading up on sauce.
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Just from reading the first post, it seems the OP has already made up his mind about using it. there''s no point telling him not to, since he's obviously not going to listen.

let him mess up his own body, then we can all say "we told you so"

people like him NEED to learn the hard way.
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haha says the person using 6 oxo, ps its the exact same thing as arimidex just 20 times weaker.. it does nothing for ur gains if ur using it as a supplement
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