Sex/F*ing/Making Love

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 04:57 AM

Okay in a recent discussion with one of my male friends he says that you can make love to someone that you are not commited to and have no love for. I disagree. I just want to see what others point of views are on this topic.

The guy states : "i dont do sex, i do actually believe in making love to a woman..."

I replied "Sex = people that have partners and casually have sex
making love = two people that are dating and that share passion between the two of them and who are in love
****ing = shared between two people who just do the grown man thing and move on; it also can be done in groups A and B if they so choose."

What do you think?

lordsess24 · 05-19-2008, 05:04 AM

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 05:13 AM

I just want to know if people think that there is a difference when it comes to having sex...or whatever you want to call it. Just something that came up in a conversation...

Callagher · 05-19-2008, 05:20 AM

You make love when you love the woman you're fcuking.

knappstaman · 05-19-2008, 05:23 AM

oh lord, a woman placing labels on sex.

Its all the same, a penis into vagina.

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Callagher

You make love when you love the woman you're fcuking.

okay i understand that. he is trying to tell me that a man makes love to everyone if he respects that woman. but can you really make love if you dont love them, that is my question

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by knappstaman

oh lord, a woman placing labels on sex.

Its all the same, a penis into vagina.

First its not a woman placing label on sex... its a woman seeing bull**** froma mile away when this dude is trying to say that he makes love to everyone that he encounters. I say bull**** becuase you dont make love to everyone.

stone fox · 05-19-2008, 06:12 AM

Were you, by any chance, watching the film "kids" when you were having this conversation??

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stone fox

Were you, by any chance, watching the film "kids" when you were having this conversation??

LOL. not likely... im at work and hes emailing me. Trying to convience me that he is the type of man that i need becuase he respects woman...

Tiffany Wantsmore · 05-19-2008, 06:36 AM

I would agree that its only making love if its with someone you care about. If its a random hook-up, its f*cking.

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Aphrodite

I would agree that its only making love if its with someone you care about. If its a random hook-up, its f*cking.

thank you a woman who understands... making love doesnt apply if there arent any emotions...

puro supafly · 05-19-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by buildingnubian

LOL. not likely... im at work and hes emailing me. Trying to convience me that he is the type of man that i need becuase he respects woman...

LOL, so you're basically asking the Misc. section whether you should bang this guy or not?

Just kidding. I think you're right, most likely it's bull****. I know because I'm one of those guys that DOES make love to all the women he encounters. But the thing is, I don't just say that to women to get them in bed. I don't say that to women at all. I even defend my position when talking about this with other males, because that's how a truly feel... and trust me, I'm pretty much the ONLY guy that really thinks this way lol.

But I think that has to do with the way I treat ALL people. I like most people, and am well-liked in return. Very few people have every managed to make me mad. So I guess you could say I "love" everybody... but I'm not IN love with everybody lol.

So one nighters, dates, or serious relationships... I love 'em all I guess.

puro supafly · 05-19-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by buildingnubian

thank you a woman who understands... making love doesnt apply if there arent any emotions...

That's not necessarily true. But I think women are forced to assume this since there are so many guys that will take advantage or look down on them after sleeping with them.

Edit.

What I ment to say is that random hookups aren't always free of emotion.

wildphucker · 05-19-2008, 06:55 AM

It has to be someone you love when making love, because you're expressing your love to them.

I wouldn't know because I've never actually had a relationship with someone i love. Only f*cks here and there.

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by puro supafly

LOL, so you're basically asking the Misc. section whether you should bang this guy or not?

Just kidding. I think you're right, most likely it's bull****. I know because I'm one of those guys that DOES make love to all the women he encounters. But the thing is, I don't just say that to women to get them in bed. I don't say that to women at all. I even defend my position when talking about this with other males, because that's how a truly feel... and trust me, I'm pretty much the ONLY guy that really thinks this way lol.

But I think that has to do with the way I treat ALL people. I like most people, and am well-liked in return. Very few people have every managed to make me mad. So I guess you could say I "love" everybody... but I'm not IN love with everybody lol.

So one nighters, dates, or serious relationships... I love 'em all I guess.

LOL real funny. I already know im not going "bang"this man but becuase he was trying to sell himself by stating he makes love to all women and so adament about it, i was just trying to see if i was the only one that sees the BS floating around.

buildingnubian · 05-19-2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wildphucker

It has to be someone you love when making love, because you're expressing your love to them.

I wouldn't know because I've never actually had a relationship with someone i love. Only f*cks here and there.

At least you are honest about it

shivsean · 05-19-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by buildingnubian

okay i understand that. he is trying to tell me that a man makes love to everyone if he respects that woman. but can you really make love if you dont love them, that is my question

Your friend should quit fuking dogs then...

Jeff_DC · 10-10-2008, 10:19 AM

i agree with your definition

musclebound2007 · 10-10-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_DC

i agree with your definition

Old topic but definitely agree with the OP. Let's see what other's say...well some more other's say.....

newyorknatural · 10-10-2008, 10:26 AM

sex = ****ing = 2 people merely concerned with their own pleasures, getting off. Not so concerned with partner. I often relate this to mutual masturbation. Like using each others bodies to get off.

Making love = 2 people actively seeking to pleasure each other. They can be a couple or just f*ck buddies, but the act is not a selfish one.

My 2 cents.

TxTreb88 · 10-10-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by buildingnubian

Okay in a recent discussion with one of my male friends he says that you can make love to someone that you are not commited to and have no love for. I disagree. I just want to see what others point of views are on this topic.

The guy states : "i dont do sex, i do actually believe in making love to a woman..."

I replied "Sex = people that have partners and casually have sex
making love = two people that are dating and that share passion between the two of them and who are in love
****ing = shared between two people who just do the grown man thing and move on; it also can be done in groups A and B if they so choose."

What do you think?

you and i should make love, then have sex, then ****. and we'll see if there's a difference between the three. if we come to no conclusion, we'll have to repeat.

musclebound2007 · 10-10-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorknatural

sex = ****ing = 2 people merely concerned with their own pleasures, getting off. Not so concerned with partner. I often relate this to mutual masturbation. Like using each others bodies to get off.

Making love = 2 people actively seeking to pleasure each other. They can be a couple or just f*ck buddies, but the act is not a selfish one.

My 2 cents.

Isn't that what the OP said? And you forgot fucking...which she defined very well also. I thought she was going to mess it up but she was right to put it into both categories.

SpiderSense · 10-10-2008, 11:10 AM

I don't know my scale goes ****ing= nasty and rougher etc.

Making love= all gentle and slow and ****.

LeftNut · 10-10-2008, 11:51 AM

Promiscuity devalues sexual relations which cannot be rationalised or justified by putting labels on the act or having some sort of self constructed value structure on it to delude yourself otherwise

Sex = Making love = ****ing. Other than varying numbers of kisses and **** its still the same thing because at its foundation you are still sharing a level of intimacy with them that is meant to be of value and are still giving away the honour of your body to another person.

Trying to put a label on the act and having varying degrees of worth to try and convince yourself that it'll still mean something when you are emotionally invested into someone else is asinine. The basic Economic model of value applies to everything in life...if you have something of value and give it away cheaply/readily then over time its value will depreciate. Adhering to some made up structure of worth is not and never will regain any semblance of value left in the act when you have been quite accommodating in readily depreciating its value.

So yeah I agree the guy is chatting bull**** but no more than the OP. You're both trying to make yourselves feel better and rationalise it with different justifications. People trying to lord themselves over/denouncing someone else with their delusion of grandeur is pretty funny though.

tonymar · 10-10-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buildingnubian

I say bull**** becuase you dont make love to everyone.

I make love to everyone.

Especially when we're having sex.

But also when I'm fuking them.

musclebound2007 · 10-10-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiderSense

I don't know my scale goes ****ing= nasty and rougher etc.

Making love= all gentle and slow and ****.

I think she was talking about the interpersonal relationships you have to have. For making love it's two people who sincerely care about each other, generally both are in a relationship with each other. The fucking is for people who could be in a relationship with each other, but they don't have to be. It could be friends-with-benefits, or it could be a one night stand, or just even a pro that you bought to have fun. Sex is just the act of what you do with two people, but I think it tends to be for the one night stands more....because two people who sincerely care about each other will fuck, make love but it's not just sexing the person, then if it is, there's no relationship to begin with.

Pad264 · 10-10-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knappstaman

oh lord, a woman placing labels on sex.

Its all the same, a penis into vagina.

...QFT

MAKUA NUI · 10-22-2008, 08:56 PM

Well being Married. I would say that I never made love to any other woman besides my Wife. With that being said. There are times we !@#K instead of making love to mix things up a bit as it should be.

But, to answer your question my Wife is the only woman I have ever made love to. No other woman before her deserved it.

Annaerobic · 10-22-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftNut

Promiscuity devalues sexual relations which cannot be rationalised or justified by putting labels on the act or having some sort of self constructed value structure on it to delude yourself otherwise

Sex = Making love = ****ing. Other than varying numbers of kisses and **** its still the same thing because at its foundation you are still sharing a level of intimacy with them that is meant to be of value and are still giving away the honour of your body to another person.

Trying to put a label on the act and having varying degrees of worth to try and convince yourself that it'll still mean something when you are emotionally invested into someone else is asinine. The basic Economic model of value applies to everything in life...if you have something of value and give it away cheaply/readily then over time its value will depreciate. Adhering to some made up structure of worth is not and never will regain any semblance of value left in the act when you have been quite accommodating in readily depreciating its value.

So yeah I agree the guy is chatting bull**** but no more than the OP. You're both trying to make yourselves feel better and rationalise it with different justifications. People trying to lord themselves over/denouncing someone else with their delusion of grandeur is pretty funny though.

Well-put.

All the same thing. I don't know if I believe in a magical state of 'being in love', so I happen to think 'making love' is a silly romanticized term for sex. And I think the word '****' is a lot sexier than simply 'sex', so it's got its' place, I guess.

I do care very deeply about my boyfriend, and of course it's more than the simple act when we have sex... but 'making love'? Come on.

icewill36 · 10-22-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by buildingnubian

First its not a woman placing label on sex... its a woman seeing bull**** froma mile away when this dude is trying to say that he makes love to everyone that he encounters. I say bull**** becuase you dont make love to everyone.

maybe hes just saying each time hes with a woman he is very passionate and loving even when he doesn't care about her, because he DOES care about pleasing her/ dick whipping her

i used to be that way too, but ive recently discovered the joys of selfish sex just dumpin your load and bouncin'