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Old 05-10-2008, 12:58 PM   #1
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Size V's Strength

ok ok...

basicly me and my friend have the same 1rm on bench...
we have been training about the same time...
but we have completly diffrent methods.


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A)I goto my 1 rep max evry time I bench

AA)he does many set/reps of heavy-ish weights

A) I barly get any protien

AA) he gets way more then hed ever need

A) Im endomorph

AA) hes mesomorph
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thing is he says that more reps = more strength & less size

but im pretty sure his arms are "much" bigger then myne, yet he does more reps and has bigger arms at the same strength...

so basicly what im saying... is there any documents on

Size V's Strength/Reps Vs Weight

that can prove im wrong.. because I would rather train for strength then size.
so if im doing it wrong like he says i am, I would like to change to a higher rep/sets method...

but yeah i just want some proof of what hes saying is correct :S
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:09 PM   #2
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lower reps with heavier weight = strength
higher reps with less weight = more mass
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:09 PM   #3
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i hear allot about fast twitch dominant / slow twitch dominant...

does this have anything to do with it ????
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Its all about the reps and sets imo.

I really found that has said above is true but alot of other factors are put into that.

Supplements can help strongly as I just got back on creatine and my god I can bench 20lb more then usually which I don't think creatine should do.

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so can any body give me proof :S

any articles to say wich is wich...
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niether of us are on creatine
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so can any body give me proof :S

any articles to say wich is wich...
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niether of us are on creatine
you can look it up on the articles on home page of the Bodybuilding.com..
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you max out everytime you bench?
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yah... well pretty much...

once i can get 4 reps of my 1rm i usually push my bench up by 10KG

but recently ive only been needing to do 2-3 of my 1rm to push it up by 10kg
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Why the hell are you 1 rep maxing every time and not taking any protein?
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id say that maxing every time you bench is THE most idiotic way to bench
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id say that maxing every time you bench is THE most idiotic way to bench
Works for me...


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it doesnt work for you and the "max" you hit every time is probably nowhere near the max you could achieve if you didnt train like a 7th grader
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I get plenty of protien after i bench ofc...



Works for me...


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Okay...

1. Do you only ****ing bench?
2. You're supposed to get protein all through the day. And how much is 'plenty'? I doubt you're getting enough.
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his 1rm must = like 100 lbs or something
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lol...

my 1rm max is far more then 100lb.
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and i dont only do 1 set :P
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my 1rm max is far more then 100lb.
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and i dont only do 1 set :P
So... when you bench you do like 3-4 sets of ONE rep? That is retarded.
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Okay...

1. Do you only ****ing bench?
2. You're supposed to get protein all through the day. And how much is 'plenty'? I doubt you're getting enough.
no I do more then just bench... but this is the only exercise that i can really compare between us.
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and yes im not getting anuff, but im planning to join the royal marines adding more mucle isnt a priority atm since i already have anuff.

but unlike my friend, I dont spend evry last penny I get on suplements.


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I never said I stay at the same weight for my whole workout.

hehe might aswell add this too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_training
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This is a really good thread about exactly this, and was actually created by all pro lol. Its a long read but definitely worth it.

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