the basics! creatine, help a beginner?

thirty · 05-01-2008, 11:42 PM

im still kind of unsure about EXACTLY how it works and what the best cycles and times to take it are and what kind of stuff i should eat while on it, im trying to get lean muscle not bulk up to much right now. if i could get a good description that would be much appreciated!

TangoandCash · 05-02-2008, 12:13 AM

check this thread out.
Everything will be answered.

Enjoy.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=100831

thickmasss · 05-02-2008, 08:33 AM

And you dont need to cycle creatine

Just get some Creatine Monohydrate, take 5g a day and your set!

CMillertime · 05-02-2008, 08:45 AM

I've been takin Size on, love that sh*t. Could get green Mag for cheaper, but size on is the best, just hurts the wallet more.

Anders0n74 · 05-02-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by -COUGAR BAIT-

And you dont need to cycle creatine

Just get some Creatine Monohydrate, take 5g a day and your set!

It's not good to not cycle off creatine though. Your liver does need time to heal itself, especially if your on said number of supplements. You will get better results if you cycle off every once and a while as well.

dvsness · 05-02-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Anders0n74

It's not good to not cycle off creatine though. Your liver does need time to heal itself, especially if your on said number of supplements. You will get better results if you cycle off every once and a while as well.

Really? Please do elaborate. I was unaware that my liver was broken.

thickmasss · 05-02-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dvsness

Really? Please do elaborate. I was unaware that my liver was broken.

x2 lol

Anders0n74 · 05-02-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dvsness

Really? Please do elaborate. I was unaware that my liver was broken.

It's common sense. Broken? No. But certainly not 100% healthy if you continue to pump your liver with creatine without taking a cycling off period.

http://www.nystrength.com/id79.html

dvsness · 05-02-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Anders0n74

It's common sense. Broken? No. But certainly not 100% healthy if you continue to pump your liver with creatine without taking a cycling off period.

http://www.nystrength.com/id79.html

So long as your hydration is high, there should be no problems. Pump your liver with creatine? What level of consumption do you think is considered to be that?

ahmadam · 05-02-2008, 11:35 AM

Although There're A Few Who Believe You Should Cycle Creatine Nothing Is Worth Harming My Body (Well Maybe Jay Cutler's Body :d ...J/K) So I Would Stay On The Safe Side And Cycle It.Load (If Monohydrate),Maintain,1 Week Off ,Repeat...

Anders0n74 · 05-02-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dvsness

So long as your hydration is high, there should be no problems. Pump your liver with creatine? What level of consumption do you think is considered to be that?

All the creatine that's consumed over time.

thirty · 05-02-2008, 02:47 PM

so basically, u think i should load up on it for the first 5 days with about 20 grams then around 5 grams every day after that? i was hearing some ppl only take it on days they work out?

bassing68 · 05-02-2008, 02:54 PM

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dvsness · 05-02-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thirty

so basically, u think i should load up on it for the first 5 days with about 20 grams then around 5 grams every day after that? i was hearing some ppl only take it on days they work out?

Only taking it on days you train is like micro-cycling. It is a decent plan once you are saturated.

I do not advocate loading. It's unnecessary (saturation is the same after ~3 weeks anyway) and that causes undue stress on the kidneys, imo. It may also cause bloating and gastric distress. You may still choose to, but you certainly don't need to.

Reese90 · 05-03-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thirty

so basically, u think i should load up on it for the first 5 days with about 20 grams then around 5 grams every day after that? i was hearing some ppl only take it on days they work out?

If you choose to do the loading phase, then definitely take it on days you don't lift for that first week. Whether or not you want to save money by not taking it on off days during the rest of your cycle is up to you. All I've heard is to cycle off of it. Do like 4 weeks on, one week off, or 6-8 weeks on, one to two weeks off. If you don't cycle it, then your body stops producing natural levels and it loses it's affects. Also, make sure you drink a lot more water than you usually do to flush the bi-product of creatine out of your kidneys and the chances of cramping from creatine are less.