Marriage is pointless....

[rampagefc77]

Originally Posted by Ellimist

Already found one. They exist, but you have to look outside of the bar/club scene to see it.

I've been a nice guy all my life, and I will never change. Because of this, I have taken **** from girls in the past.

I have had a girlfriend openly reject me for her ex boyfriend, who later on cheated on her with another girl.

I have had a girl leave me when I needed her most for her ex boyfriend that inevitably treated her like a worthless human being.

And I have had a girl have sex with my friend in front of my friends days after I gave her a dozen white roses to cheer her up.

I am who I am, and if a silly girl can't accept me for that reason, then obviously she is not the one for me. Right now I have found a girl who loves me for the person I am, even if that person is a nice guy.

Being a nice guy isn't always a bad thing. You take the bad with the good just like everything else. Eventually you'll find someone who makes all the pain and suffering you've gone through worth it.

must spread... ill hit u up later

[user437490845hjge]

Originally Posted by rampagefc77

If your TRULY believe that the only reason someone would marry is for tax benefits.... I feel sorry for you.

Everyone is looking at it only from an economic standpoint (and unreasonably at that).

People rarely married for love and such a motivating force was frowned upon. For centuries marriage was seen as a means for the succession of property rights through legitimate children and for advancing within one's social class or to a higher social class. These things are not dependent on marriage anymore, but its still a legal contract in today's world.

Why not treat it as such rather than put it through the pretext of idealism?

[Jenflower2]

Originally Posted by Ellimist

Already found one. They exist, but you have to look outside of the bar/club scene to see it.

I've been a nice guy all my life, and I will never change. Because of this, I have taken **** from girls in the past.

I have had a girlfriend openly reject me for her ex boyfriend, who later on cheated on her with another girl.

I have had a girl leave me when I needed her most for her ex boyfriend that inevitably treated her like a worthless human being.

And I have had a girl have sex with my friend in front of my friends days after I gave her a dozen white roses to cheer her up.

I am who I am, and if a silly girl can't accept me for that reason, then obviously she is not the one for me. Right now I have found a girl who loves me for the person I am, even if that person is a nice guy.

Being a nice guy isn't always a bad thing. You take the bad with the good just like everything else. Eventually you'll find someone who makes all the pain and suffering you've gone through worth it.

Very good attitude!

I wouldn't label you as a "nice guy" though (at least from what I do know about you) if the common definition stands. You are a good guy but not a "nice guy".

(rampage-keep your little remarks to yourself )

But no matter if you are a nice guy, bad guy, good guy whatever, I'm sure we all have stories like yours above to share.

[rampagefc77]

Originally Posted by Hannibal_Barca

People rarely married for love and such a motivating force was frowned upon. For centuries marriage was seen as a means for the succession of property rights through legitimate children and for advancing within one's social class or to a higher social class. These things are not dependent on marriage anymore, but its still a legal contract in today's world.

Why not treat it as such rather than put it through the pretext of idealism?

I suppose we are taking polar opposite views, and reality is somewhere in between.

[rampagefc77]

Originally Posted by Jenflower2

(rampage-keep your little remarks to yourself )

:X yes ma'am

[user437490845hjge]

Originally Posted by rampagefc77

I suppose we are taking polar opposite views, and reality is somewhere in between.

The reality is that marriage is a legal contract. And as a legal contract gives the parties power based on how much leverage they each have in the relationship as well as associated liabilities if it fails. However you feel about marriage personally, this is an undeniable fact.

How people view that reality is dependent on opinion, conjecture, bias, etc.

[v4lu3s]

i used to think marriage was pointless. but that changed now i am married and happier than ever in my live. I had my time seeing multiple women at once and juggling all that bull****. Sex was fun but pretty bland, after all very few women are gonna really let loose and trust you in a short term relationship.Since getting married I have been able to make a permanent home, rather than a series of apartments, I have a much better financial life than ever before. The only complaint I have is the wife being deployed to the middle east with an Army Reserve unit. Anyway I can look back with some fondness on being single, but I do not miss it. I get a lot more done in my life when I am not thinking about where I can going to get sex next, and chasing women.

[magnabolt]

LOL @ some of the stupid responses. The real problem with marriage today is WOMEN. If you can't recognise that then you need to open your ****ing eyes.

[v4lu3s]

Originally Posted by magnabolt

LOL @ some of the stupid responses. The real problem with marriage today is WOMEN. If you can't recognise that then you need to open your ****ing eyes.

lol yeah men are always innocent, you don't need two people in a relationship.

[rampagefc77]

Originally Posted by Hannibal_Barca

The reality is that marriage is a legal contract. And as a legal contract gives the parties power based on how much leverage they each have in the relationship as well as associated liabilities if it fails. However you feel about marriage personally, this is an undeniable fact.

How people view that reality is dependent on opinion, conjecture, bias, etc.

Yes, but the business behind a marriage is a small part of what marriage is all about, and the reason why people choose to get married. Neglecting everything else is somewhat foolish and I consider that and undeniable fact as well.

[user437490845hjge]

Originally Posted by rampagefc77

Yes, but the business behind a marriage is a small part of what marriage is all about, and the reason why people choose to get married. Neglecting everything else is somewhat foolish and I consider that and undeniable fact as well.

Are you serious? The business aspect of marriage is the essence of what its all about. Everything else - love, children, commitment, emotional fulfillment, a companion, etc. can all be had w/o marriage at all. Its the legal component that makes marriage unique, not love or commitment to one another.

The fact that people choose to get married and either ignore this aspect or dismiss it as a "small part of what marriage is all about" speaks volumes about their ignorance.

[rampagefc77]

Originally Posted by Hannibal_Barca

Are you serious? The business aspect of marriage is the essence of what its all about. Everything else - love, children, commitment, emotional fulfillment, a companion, etc. can all be had w/o marriage at all. Its the legal component that makes marriage unique, not love or commitment to one another.

The fact that people choose to get married and either ignore this aspect or dismiss it as a "small part of what marriage is all about" speaks volumes about their ignorance.

If u wanna make money, go invest or start a business. Getting married for the sake of a financial investment is one of the more retarded things ive ever heard. Making money and owning a business/getting involved in a business can be held without getting married as well. I fail to see how your argument pertains here....

must just be my ignorance

[Bujumbles]

nobody answered my question so ill rephrase it better, why do you need a legal binding "contract" to be with someone for the rest of your life, and start a family n all that?

[sammy21]

here it is, by Edudbor, one of the greatest posts I've read in a while

My girlfriend is talking about marriage already....

We live together, in my house that I pay for. I make ~3x what she makes

She says she wants us to get married because she 'loves' me; but when I ask her what will change when we get married, she says nothing. She just wants to get married so she can tell people are married and because her name will change.

I told her, fine, lie and say I'm your husband and go to the courthouse and change your name.

The truth is, she is 24 years old and she knows that it is all downhill from here. She knows if we date for 3 years and break up, she'll be 28, less attractive, single and going out to bars and clubs trying to compete with girls 22-24 and she knows she'll be at a disadvantage.

She knows that, her single greatest asset to a man, is her looks. And those are beginning to fade. Marriage, to her, is like getting the greatest job in the world. Her salary will double (because in the eyes of the law, there isn't 'my' money and 'her' money - it is 'our' money), she'll own half of my house, and she knows that if anything goes wrong and we want a divorce there is NO WAY she will be screwed over. I will be.

It is win-win-win-win-win for her. For me? Not so much...

I have to buy her an expensive ring
I have to pay for wedding
I have to attend the wedding (I hate weddings)
I have to pay for the honeymoon (I hate travel)
I lose ownership of half of my house
I see my credit score take a huge hit
I now have a wife who is many more times likely to get fat than a girlfriend
I have to live knowing should she decide to leave, she can take half of my **** with her.

What's the downside for her?

She gets a perfect day where she is the center of attention, a nice vacation, half of a house, a bunch of money, a better credit score, the safety of knowing I can't leave her (but if I do, she'll get to keep a bunch of my stuff), she'll feel more stable and be less likely to keep in shape.

[fitinidaho]

I was never looking to get married....but I've been married for 26 years now. That's a big accomplishment these days.

[rampagefc77]

Originally Posted by sammy21

here it is, by Edudbor, one of the greatest posts I've read in a while

This falls into my previous argument perfectly. RIght now that man and woman may be in their prime physically, but likely arent overly wealthy or in other contexts of their life. The reason they are together likely exceeds monetary or physical appearance alone.

Now, just as the woman will age, so will the man. While the woman wont be able to reel in the same guys (but lets face it, even a decent chick can get with most guys...) the guy wont be able to pick up the spring chickens either. If he does, its purely for a monetary reason, the exact reason he wouldnt marry the first girl...

That post makes it seem as if women age and fade off, while he will never change. This isnt the case. While he is with a woman right now who probably has a deeper connection than purely monetary, the only women he will get in the future will be going after his money.

apparently this author of that post failed to look further into the future...

If you are THAT concerned, sign a prenup and then u wont have to deal with most of the bull**** out there

[grantnieddu]

I like your take here: statistics are not the rule, they are the generalization of the behavoir of multiple people, there are always exceptions.

[grantnieddu]

Originally Posted by sammy21

here it is, by Edudbor, one of the greatest posts I've read in a while

That sounds bleak, bro.

I love to travel.
I long to share everything I have with another person.
I would gladly watch our looks fade cause I know it is going to fade anyway. Why not let our looks fade together.

But, hey, what do I know about being a self-reliant, don't-need-nobody person: I believe in marriage, the love, the commitments, the hurts and all.

Bring the risk of losing everything! I would gladly risk everything for the possibility of spending the rest of my life with someone. And I would do it again and again and again.

[WizardGlick]

Posted by fitinidaho
I was never looking to get married....but I've been married for 26 years now. That's a big accomplishment these days.

That is a GREAT accomplishment! Congrats!

Btw, I just checked out your bodyspace ..... you look amazing!

[oasis1]

Marriage sucks when you get divorced...then the bitches take your money and your ****. according to my football coach

[fenixzona]

Originally Posted by fitinidaho

I was never looking to get married....but I've been married for 26 years now. That's a big accomplishment these days.

44years old and you have a very nice body.

[waytoodeep03]

Originally Posted by fitinidaho

I was never looking to get married....but I've been married for 26 years now. That's a big accomplishment these days.

If I had a wife Looking like you at age 44 Id be married for 26 years too

[lord infamous]

Originally Posted by Roca

I do??

No not you cuz youre a douche bag with a leak in it u ***ging fudge packer

[wimpking]

Originally Posted by oasis1

Marriage sucks when you get divorced...then the bitches take your money and your ****. according to my football coach

He's not just your football coach, he's your life coach.