*Best Non-Methyl PH/PS to Run SOLO*

[Androgen]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

List 'em

[Mister_A]

My only 2 favorites I've run:

Prostan (mega-zol) and 3-AD.

[pa mma]

depending on what you want but...11oxo

[IRON HORSE J]

Couple of things

How old are you

What PH/DS have you ran in the past

What are your goals

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by pa mma

depending on what you want but...11oxo

Also a good choice if you dose it right. (totally forgot)

I ran the original 3-AD, pure adrenosterone (same as 11oxo) at 600mg/day and liked it alot.

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by jhicks3301

Couple of things

How old are you

What PH/DS have you ran in the past

What are your goals

Currently 21, about to start first cycle epi/furaz 4 week lean bulk cycle. I want to then run a non-methyl around 2-3 months after i finish PCT (want to keep it to 1 methyl run per year). I've been researching for a long while now, and feel confident to run an epi cycle safely with a good PCT. However I havent really looked into non-methyls that extensively, plus there are tonnes of newbie threads asking about safe first cycles, so this could be a list to start on

[CaptMcClain]

Originally Posted by tnick

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

List 'em

I'd look into bold 200, 11oxo, and 3ad

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by Scheizekopf

My only 2 favorites I've run:

Prostan (mega-zol) and 3-AD.

Nice, Im hearing only good things about 3-ad, and looking forward to seeing how other ppl like it as well now its out.

How high did you run prostan? Im running furaz soon (which from what i gather is a similar compound) with epi, going to start at 150 and end up to 250. I hear its a nice mild cycle but high doses are required

[VaughnTrue]

Bold200 will put on more weight than any of these compounds no question.

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

Bold200 will put on more weight than any of these compounds no question.

I doubt more than 3-AD.

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by Scheizekopf

I doubt more than 3-AD.

come on now...lets be realistic.


we have legit logs showing 20+lbs.

[lalala-elf]

the 3-AD logs have all only been 22.5 days long though afaik :O

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

come on now...lets be realistic.


we have legit logs showing 20+lbs.

Serious? Dang. I had no idea.

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by lalala-elf

the 3-AD logs have all only been 22.5 days long though afaik :O

Yeah... true.

I'm up a total of over 20lbs, a couple days into PCT of 3-AD. (30 day cycle)

[AdamStone32]

Any side effects of these? and what is the best way to stack them?

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by AdamStone32

Any side effects of these? and what is the best way to stack them?

No sides from any that I listed.

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by AdamStone32

Any side effects of these? and what is the best way to stack them?

these are al ph/ps your too young to be using the supps in this thread tbh.

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by Scheizekopf

My only 2 favorites I've run:

Prostan (mega-zol) and 3-AD.

How did you dose the prostan??

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by AdamStone32

Any side effects of these? and what is the best way to stack them?

18 is too young for this stuff man.

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by tnick

How did you dose the prostan??

I love prostan.

I start at about 200 and go up to 400. But that's just me.
I dont suggest that to the average person.

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by Scheizekopf

I love prostan.

I start at about 200 and go up to 400. But that's just me.
I dont suggest that to the average person.

Yeah this is what i hear, apparently 400mg is comparable to a certain dosage of winny can quite remember how much tho. im going to run it 150/200/200/250 along with epi at 20-30/30/30/30-40, but still worried the furaz is really dosed at the sweet spot !!

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by tnick

Yeah this is what i hear, apparently 400mg is comparable to a certain dosage of winny can quite remember how much tho. im going to run it 150/200/200/250 along with epi at 20-30/30/30/30-40, but still worried the furaz is really dosed at the sweet spot !!

I'd say 400 is about equal to ~50mg of Winny.

[Androgen]

Ok so far:

11-oxo
3-AD
Bold200
Furazadrol
Prostanazol & clones

Propadrol? Anymore?

How about transdermal 1-ad/4-ad if you have access to bulk powders

[chasinSKURT]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

come on now...lets be realistic.


we have legit logs showing 20+lbs.

OK, lets be realistic. It's not realistic to expect to gain 20+ lbs on any PH. Guys don't pack on 20+ lbs injecting with long or short acting boldenone esters, better yet a bold prohormone with a much shorter half life.

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

OK, lets be realistic. It's not realistic to expect to gain 20+ lbs on any PH. Guys don't pack on 20+ lbs injecting with long or short acting boldenone esters, better yet a bold prohormone with a much shorter half life.

True, but 20lbs, is possible, if gains are muscle, fat, and water weight.

Originally Posted by tnick

Ok so far:

11-oxo
3-AD
Bold200
Furazadrol
Prostanazol & clones

Propadrol? Anymore?

How about transdermal 1-ad/4-ad if you have access to bulk powders

BUMPITY Bump before bed

[Voo]

ok reps time to put your dicks away, the pissing contest is over.

bold and all variations
3ad
11oxo
furaz
winz (prostan, whatever you call it)
trenaplex
trenadrol
revolt

i think i got them all. probably a few others, but you get the idea.

as for a cycle producing 20+lbs in a month:
while its obvious to anyone that this is either a first time prohormone user or someone guilty of grossly overeating to provide caloric surplus on cycle, I have a hard time calling these "gains" legitimate. A series of questions for those who would argue;
How many previous prohormone cycles had been run by each user?
Do you have post cycle weights without water?
Was bodyfat professionally measured (dunk tank method) before and aft cycle?
How much did the users diet change? - I know for a fact bold increases the appetite to the level that you might as well be stoned from sunrise to sunset.

Now Im not trying to pick a fight, I myself am a big fan of several of the nonmethyl ph/ps, however I am hard pressed to say that they're capable of stacking on 5lbs of lean muscle a week considering that real steroid use has a hard time matching up to that number.
(example, a 10 week cycle would be 50lbs of lean mass, making me an instant professional bodybuilder)

[Naven]

Originally Posted by Voo

ok reps time to put your dicks away, the pissing contest is over.

Repz.