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You are right about the canadian version does not contain YOHIMBE HCL. That is crap!!! That is not fair whats of ever. Therefore, the USA version should be slightly better. Anyway we can obtain the USA version in Canada?
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The guy were I buy my supplements told me there is a diffrerence between the two ! He told me that the USA version is stronger then the Canadian one. When i told him about the Yohimbe he told me that He did'tn think it was about it ! Basicly he was cluless about the difference between the two in term of ingredients profile. They sold the canadian version for 53 $ and the USA for 59 $.
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The guy were I buy my supplements told me there is a diffrerence between the two ! He told me that the USA version is stronger then the Canadian one. When i told him about the Yohimbe he told me that He did'tn think it was about it ! Basicly he was cluless about the difference between the two in term of ingredients profile. They sold the canadian version for 53 $ and the USA for 59 $.
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So you were able to purchase the USA version locally in Quebec? Hmmm...I wonder if anyone in Vancouver sells the USA version.
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04-09-2008, 02:29 PM
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You are right about the canadian version does not contain YOHIMBE HCL. That is crap!!! That is not fair whats of ever. Therefore, the USA version should be slightly better. Anyway we can obtain the USA version in Canada?
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No you can't, unless it is shipped ups by someone in the US. I am up for some trades
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04-09-2008, 02:54 PM
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No you can't, unless it is shipped ups by someone in the US. I am up for some trades
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Or how about purchasing it thru here at BB? Or would the Canadian custom confiscate the item? But I don't think they would know unless they read up on the ingredients.
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04-09-2008, 04:21 PM
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Or how about purchasing it thru here at BB? Or would the Canadian custom confiscate the item? But I don't think they would know unless they read up on the ingredients.
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bb.com has both formulas to ship accordingly
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I like buying mine online. I can get 3 2 lb canisters for $75-90 depending on the deals that are going on. $30 is the highest I buy vapor for. The only worry there is that it gets shaken to hell by the lazy mail carriers who toss **** around like its christmas time. Idk if it matters that much as long it is allowed to settle. Never shake this stuff. I get a thing of plastic cups and plastic spoons and stir and reuse (wash) the cup til either its nasty or I take it to the gym cuz i dont have time to stop by the house and then throw it away. Nothing has ever given me pumps like Nano and the first time I used it my curls went up about 10-20%. Doesn't bother my stomach (depends on the person) and I've never crashed from it (unless there was lack of sleep, food, or some other reason). It has 2.5 cups of coffee worth of caffine per scoop but surprisingly I've heard that caffine offers health benefits (fact or fiction; u decide). It's got soo many different things in it you don't need to go out and buy a whole bunch of crap. PLUS IF YOU GUYS LOVE ORANGE AND BLUE RASPBERRY WAIT TIL U TRY THE GRAPE. Grape is the bomb =D. It also seems to put me in the workout mood and sometimes also gives me a burning sensation which I don't mind but some people might. I give nanovapor a 9 out of 10.
And a question I have is that I heard that you don't need to cycle off creatine. Is this a myth or true? Don't answer if you're not certain.
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04-09-2008, 06:09 PM
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Heres the deal, I've been taking BSN No Xplode, Cell Mass, and Nitrix for a little while now. At first i noticed huge gains in muscle mass, energy, and focus. Now not so much anymore. Im looking into Muscletech Nano Vapor because i have heard some great things about it. Im about 99% sure im going to get Nano Vapor. What i would like to know is what works well with Nano Vapor. I've been looking around and cannot find anything that really sticks out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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04-10-2008, 05:46 AM
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So you were able to purchase the USA version locally in Quebec? Hmmm...I wonder if anyone in Vancouver sells the USA version.
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Well no i did start with the canadian version! Two scoop are doing the trick right now ! I will try the USA version when I am done with the one I got ! If it is stronger maybe just 1 scoop will do the trick! At the end event with the 7$ more it would be more economical ! Don't ask me how the were able to get the USA version do!
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04-10-2008, 04:12 PM
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i got huge taking 3 scoops, but cant afford to be going through nanovapor like bum through wine.
Wellz- Nanovapor is ok by itself but I suggest taking a multivitamin twice a day (morning and night?), whey protein after your workout. I've heard good stuff about halo but have yet to try it. It's a postworkout supplement thats supposed to be made to go with nanovapor but truth lies in the eyes of the beholder. I am unsure if its claims are good. I've used 17HD and the Xyience test booster (got it for free) with nanovapor and they go hand in hand for a very intense excercise, but tend to carry over into your personal life and make you do some crazy **** (which i like) unless you control it and are aware that it may do that. Also I've never tried it before but I'm going to try a creatine monohydrate mixed with Black Powder (a NO2 supplement) because I've heard claims that nanovapor has tons of stuff, just not enough creatine or NO2 (don't know if it works in the first place) but I figure I'll test it out and see if my gains go up a lot more when doubling up on the stuff. I'll let you know how it goes if u want to add me as a friend or remind me later on. Nano is good by itself though and you will gain intensity and (in my case) massive pumps from it.
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04-10-2008, 05:23 PM
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i got huge taking 3 scoops, but cant afford to be going through nanovapor like bum through wine.
Wellz- Nanovapor is ok by itself but I suggest taking a multivitamin twice a day (morning and night?), whey protein after your workout. I've heard good stuff about halo but have yet to try it. It's a postworkout supplement thats supposed to be made to go with nanovapor but truth lies in the eyes of the beholder. I am unsure if its claims are good. I've used 17HD and the Xyience test booster (got it for free) with nanovapor and they go hand in hand for a very intense excercise, but tend to carry over into your personal life and make you do some crazy **** (which i like) unless you control it and are aware that it may do that. Also I've never tried it before but I'm going to try a creatine monohydrate mixed with Black Powder (a NO2 supplement) because I've heard claims that nanovapor has tons of stuff, just not enough creatine or NO2 (don't know if it works in the first place) but I figure I'll test it out and see if my gains go up a lot more when doubling up on the stuff. I'll let you know how it goes if u want to add me as a friend or remind me later on. Nano is good by itself though and you will gain intensity and (in my case) massive pumps from it.
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I don't know where you heard to take Nano and Halo together, call Muscletech and they will say they don't recommend doing it. The GNC deal was a bad misunderstanding a MT rep told me over the phone. Adding stuff to take with Nano, dude careful with the overuse, kidneys need a break now and then. It looks like you look pretty damn good, i would just stick with the vapor. jmo
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04-10-2008, 11:20 PM
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i read that somewhere online. I heard nano was for preworkout and halo was for postworkout and they were meant to be together. Guess I'm wrong but sorry if I misinformed you about that. I drink a ton of water to flush out everything, but nano comes first and i experiment with everything else and take lots of stuff for my health rather than all for muscle. I also quit taking testosterone boosters and will save them for later in life when I'm older and lacking. I know I should probably slow down, but I've got to test out Nano, black powder, and creatine-mono for just a month and ill be done with it. It's basically an experiment and I'd like to see the results and tell people how it works. (I don't think I'm in any trouble with my kidneys cuz of water consumption and other small supps that benefit kidneys, but idk)
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04-11-2008, 10:44 AM
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U.S. naNO Vapor vs. Canadian naNO Vapor
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Hello! Is there i difference Between the Canadian version and the USA one ? thank you
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Alvin1,
There are a few variations between the U.S. and Canadian naNO Vapor formulas. This is a result of the regulations governing dietary supplements in each of these countries. As a result, the following minor ingredient changes were implemented:
1. Xanthinol nicotinate is contained in the U.S. formula while the Canadian version contains niacin.
2. Yohimbine HCl is not included in the Canadian formula.
3. N-Acetyl-l-carnitine HCl and Acetyl-l-carnitine l-arginine dihydrochloride are not present in the Canadian formula.
The Canadian naNO Vapor formula is still an extremely powerful formula that you can expect incredible results from. The research and development team went to extreme lengths to ensure the Canadian version of the formula elicits an explosive training experience.
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04-11-2008, 01:23 PM
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Dude your not supposed to shake NO products most of the time. Your betting off stirring it. It says right on some of the stuff...DO NOT SHAKE! Haha so I'm just lettin you know. Btw Labrada's Super Charge is pretty dece...good pumps, good energy, but it doesn't mix amazingly well, but its fine. If you're going to try it out, have your stir utensil ready and mix it asap to get the best stir job!
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that surprises me that canadas would be less powerful than U.S.... figured we were more strict than they
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You can SHAKE IT!!!!
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Dude your not supposed to shake NO products most of the time. Your betting off stirring it. It says right on some of the stuff...DO NOT SHAKE! Haha so I'm just lettin you know. Btw Labrada's Super Charge is pretty dece...good pumps, good energy, but it doesn't mix amazingly well, but its fine. If you're going to try it out, have your stir utensil ready and mix it asap to get the best stir job!
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It says on the bottle "DO NOT SHAKE CONTAINER" means don't shake the powder in the container. But it doesn't say not to shake it with water in the bottle when you are mixing the drink?? I think it is fine shaking it. Correct me if I am wrong here. I am sure Sean Tierney can confirm this.
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04-12-2008, 01:28 AM
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you can shake it but i wouldnt reccommend it. It will more than likely cause you bloating, maybe make your bottle explode from pressure, or could do many things. I'm sure that's why most people experience nausea or other symptoms. You're just better off stirring it regardless of what it says
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04-12-2008, 07:39 AM
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It says on the bottle "DO NOT SHAKE CONTAINER" means don't shake the powder in the container. But it doesn't say not to shake it with water in the bottle when you are mixing the drink?? I think it is fine shaking it. Correct me if I am wrong here. I am sure Sean Tierney can confirm this.
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Yes. You are correct. Thanks for clarifying that momotl
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I just started using the Nano Vapor orange flavor... if you want to go by a 1-10 scale for flavor, I'd say MT owes me about 3 points. It tasted like a funky orange-pineapple fusion and was just beyond horrible..............
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this stuff is amazing. I've just come off of using BSN NO-Xplode for about 4 years because it finally wore off, and this stuff far surpasses what BSN did for me. It works hella fast and in the car on the way to the gym on Saturday (my first time using it) I couldn't get there fast enough. When I finally got there, I completely destroyed my chest; I put up 295lbs twice for the first time, and 275lbs about 8 times, after failing at 3 reps on 275 last week. I know some skeptics will ask what else I was using... nothing changed. Went from ON whey and NO-Xplode to ON whey and Nano Vapor. I've never been a big MuscleTech fan but this stuff is my favorite now. Now if only they could work on the flavoring a bit...
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Try Gaspari's Superpump 250. It is even better than Nano Vapor
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personally i dont like gaspari and i think lots of their products are crap. Are you a rep Ken? I've not tried gaspari superpump, but i've also heard mostly bad things on it. Maybe it does work who knows.
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Reason: cuz i dont think he's a rep, but dunno
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04-12-2008, 03:24 PM
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i just started using nanovapor after N.O. xplode wore off...its pretty good. im wondering though if it would be better to wait a few weeks before using it though as i just finished off a jar of N.O. xplode?
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i just started using nanovapor after N.O. xplode wore off...its pretty good. im wondering though if it would be better to wait a few weeks before using it though as i just finished off a jar of N.O. xplode?
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it would probably be a good idea, that would allow you to get the full benefit of NaNo Vapor
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i dont think it would really matter. There is no loading phase between the 2 and you don't need to cycle either products off. If you wanted to see the difference between the 2 it would be a good idea but it is not neccessary
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Alvin1,
There are a few variations between the U.S. and Canadian naNO Vapor formulas. This is a result of the regulations governing dietary supplements in each of these countries. As a result, the following minor ingredient changes were implemented:
1. Xanthinol nicotinate is contained in the U.S. formula while the Canadian version contains niacin.
2. Yohimbine HCl is not included in the Canadian formula.
3. N-Acetyl-l-carnitine HCl and Acetyl-l-carnitine l-arginine dihydrochloride are not present in the Canadian formula.
The Canadian naNO Vapor formula is still an extremely powerful formula that you can expect incredible results from. The research and development team went to extreme lengths to ensure the Canadian version of the formula elicits an explosive training experience.
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Thank you for your response !
Yep the Canadian formula deliver a strong punch ! I have been on it for 4 weeks now and it has grow on me ! Especially the taste ! the orange one taste really good !
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1.5 Scoop
This is my second bottle now and I would always take only 1scoop just 25mins before workout. 1scoop seems to work well for me. Anyways last night...I thought I give it a bit more for the sake of experiencing. So I took 1.5 scoop this time. Just after 7mins in I can feel the energy rush and I felt ready for a good workout. During my workout I was able to push thru all my exercise with good comfort. I did notice this stuff makes me sweat like a dog. But that is ok with me. I know I worked really hard. But 2 things I noticed taking just 1/2 scoop more was my PUMP was Crazy. I get crazy pumps with 1 scoop but with 1.5scoop I could barley bend my forearm..LOL!!! My muscle was super tight and felt like a balloon that was ready to pop. Secondly, the rush was more vibrant which gave me great energy and focus. Great product..thus far!!
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This is my second bottle now and I would always take only 1scoop just 25mins before workout. 1scoop seems to work well for me. Anyways last night...I thought I give it a bit more for the sake of experiencing. So I took 1.5 scoop this time. Just after 7mins in I can feel the energy rush and I felt ready for a good workout. During my workout I was able to push thru all my exercise with good comfort. I did notice this stuff makes me sweat like a dog. But that is ok with me. I know I worked really hard. But 2 things I noticed taking just 1/2 scoop more was my PUMP was Crazy. I get crazy pumps with 1 scoop but with 1.5scoop I could barley bend my forearm..LOL!!! My muscle was super tight and felt like a balloon that was ready to pop. Secondly, the rush was more vibrant which gave me great energy and focus. Great product..thus far!!
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Just wait till you get up to three scoops, it's insane!!! You don't want to ever stop working out.
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i miss the 3 scoop days... i saw massive gains but in order to keep from going through 2 canisters a month i bumped down to 2 lol... Try grape, best so far!
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Just wait till you get up to three scoops, it's insane!!! You don't want to ever stop working out.
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Wow...I can't imagine what 3scoops will do to me...haha!!!
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no, its just marketing
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Ummm... how would "Do not shake" help MuscleTech market a supplement?
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I have been shaking it since day one. How else would the crystal disolve quickly into the H2O. Am I not suppose to shake it??
I think the Canadian Version and USA version is the same. I beleive there is yohimbe in the mix. I will confirm when I get home to check out the ingredients.
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I found that stirring and letting it sit for about 10 minutes allows the Vapor to completely dissolve- no grains. The reason you don't want to shake it has to do with atmospheric dispersion, where the particles involved in the powder can be swallowed up in the open air. In a closed bottle... yeah, it's probably not a big deal once you get it in there... but definitely don't shake the tub and to be on the safe side stir it in your drink.
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i could see how it could be a marketing scam but im pretty sure its not. As long as it's stirred, not shaken i have no problems. If you notice when you shake the tub (or even when you don't) and you just open it, lots of "vapor" or the particles come out with it. That's why you don't want to leave it open to long.
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I used the blue raspberry fusion nano vapor, it tasted great and worked well for the most part. I never experienced any crashing, my only complaint is that it made my stomach upset before my workouts. I also wondered why they put caffeine in it, I've heard that it limits the effects of creatine.
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