I know many vegans who don't preach their lifestyle. The 2% attention whores are always the loudest.
Just like with atheists, most normal atheists do not give a **** if there is a God or not, a small % think they are above others simply because of their beliefs lmao.
I'm atheist btw.
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03-18-2016, 11:10 AM #121
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03-18-2016, 11:26 AM #122
1) That is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. Killing and eating another species = killing children of your own species?
2) Vegan logic: It's murder to eat meat but we should kill off carnivores.
Ignoring this guy, I agree being vegan is more environmentally sustainable and that we should probably reduce (not get rid of completely) meat consumption. IMO a perfect diet would be 95% vegan 5% meat (fish>chicken>red meat)
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03-18-2016, 11:30 AM #123
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03-18-2016, 12:09 PM #124
Keep comparing yourselves to animals in the wild. I don't understand why we wouldn't hold ourselves to higher standards since we have the mental capacity to make decisions based on what we feel is right rather than using primal logic as an excuse. We can be just as healthy if not healthier on a vegan diet. It's simply selfish and lazy not to. You like the taste of meat too much to end the suffering of animals AND to help end the biggest cause of climate change. Deforestation for livestock and food for livestock is the biggest reason. The whole excuse of it being what we've done for thousands of years is a terrible excuse. We've done a lot of fuked up things for thousands of years before recently realizing that we probably shouldn't do it.
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03-18-2016, 12:11 PM #125
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Not surprised you believe in reincarnation. Also good luck with your changing the definition of words.
'It doesn't mean that to me'
OK so you don't understand the meaning of the word, and use it incorrectly, got it.
Just say killing, instead of murdering. There is a perfectly appropriate word to use, rather than incorrectly using one that has more of a 'wow' factor.**Georgia Crew**
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03-18-2016, 12:30 PM #126
I agree that there are those *******s that spread vegan stuff like propaganda. Like in their daily lives.. Unless you are part of a large group you shouldn't target individuals, only larger groups.
I became vegan about 3 months and a half ago. Why I did it? I always had the chits. no matter what. I took out dairy for a month, nothing. Took out rice, nothing. Lowered salt increased water, nothing. Would chit diarrhea 5-6 times a day for 2 years. So I thought one morning "Why haven't I tried taking meat out?"
Immediate solid turds. I've never been happier taking dumps. My love for a rare steak, or some sushi is totally out the window. Not even crave it. I have pizza all the time too. I order pizza without cheese, it actually tastes better than regular pizza. You can taste every bit of the pizza that way. There are millions of alternatives out there.
#1 polluter in the world is animal agriculture. So... that too. Or do you think the livestock is magically produced? They need to be fed, given water, and grown crops for to thrive and grow big.
I'm not a vegan where I go out to a restaurant and ask the waiter "hey do you have vegan options?" just read the menu. Or look at it before you go. It isn't that hard. If you're invited to eat out with friends just eat before hand and tell them you just ate. No one will judge you if you are really their friend. They will be supportive. People that aren't vegan are the biggest a-holes though. "MMM Look at this juicy steak, you want some?" No man I don't. And it isn't even funny it is just annoying. And I don't say "No I'm vegan." All I say is "No, Thank you!"
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03-18-2016, 02:19 PM #127
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We started eating meat due to our larger brain capacity. Complex brains require a lot more energy to sustain. Consumption of red meat and fish is packed with much more energy per pound than fruits and vegetables, it is not even close. Just because people do "fine" on periodic periods without meat does not prove the concept. Denying yourself meat is to deny your biology and evolution.
The dog was in guiness world records ( not sure which year) but was called "bramble", I understand dogs eat meat in the wild but that's in keeping with what I stated about tribal people, killing animals as they are one of your only food sources is one thing, but for us who all buy stuff from the shops it isn't necessary there are thousands of people that are irrefutable proof of that. Anyway sorry I couldn't find a link for the old dog, as I said i don't have pets, nor would I force my lifestyle on them if i got any I heard about that dog and thought it was interesting.***Alabama Crimson Tide***
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03-18-2016, 02:26 PM #128
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03-18-2016, 02:41 PM #129
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03-18-2016, 02:53 PM #130
http://www.econlib.org/library/Colum...weatshops.html
Interesting read. Seems like there is various academic work done on this subject.
Anyone trying to make the transition to less meat in their diet, I encourage you to message me and I will share some go-to recipes I have been using.
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03-18-2016, 03:05 PM #132
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03-18-2016, 03:06 PM #133
Eating meat and eggs is natural (humans have been doing it for thousands of years), eating the amount of dairy people do today, probably not as much since if you think about it ancient tribes (50-100 people each) might have tied up a few cows to their camps for milk (which would have provided perhaps 2 gallons in total a day), enough for a small cup of milk each, but not near the level people consume today. But yeah, eating meat and eggs is natural, just not the way they're raised today.
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03-18-2016, 03:09 PM #134
You're comparing bacteria to living, sentient beings? And most vegans are against the exploitation of animals and insects.. which is why a lot don't consume any honey products, etc.
You're just upset when some of the life looks cute.
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03-18-2016, 03:13 PM #135
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03-18-2016, 03:14 PM #136
Just looking at this rationally;
- Animals are living creatures, Plants are alive and are part of the animal kingdom/Earths Symbiosis
- So its Ok to eat Plants but not animals?
- How can you distinguish if plants have no feelings?
- Or can we eat plants cause they dumb and animals are smarter?
- Who says a plant is not sitting in the pot next to us thinking about our wellbeing?
- They are also protecting us from Carbon Dioxide poisoning so if we kill plants we are killing ourselves?!?!
- If you are a good human being you will get on that no living creature diet 100% filtered water diet, I've been on it for 6 months and I'm shredded and my strengths through the roof.I neg:
- People that don't know how to properly use words like their, there, where, were etc.
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03-18-2016, 03:15 PM #137
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03-18-2016, 03:15 PM #138
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03-18-2016, 03:18 PM #139
LOL!?!? Looking at your sig I know you're a man/troll.
How many plants would it take to feed a family for a year? hmm a few thousand veggies/fruit to make some salad and shakes and ****
How many animals would it take to feed a family for a year? 1-2 cows
Sounds like Massacre and genocide vs effeciencyI neg:
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03-18-2016, 03:19 PM #140
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03-18-2016, 03:22 PM #141
They would still be contributing into that and maybe a slight increase from our increased contribution in plant grazing because the animals wont be killed at prime age and they will be maturing throughout the ages until they're are old and frail because no one is farming them. North America would be infested with Bears, Wolves, Buffalo, Birds etc because NO one is eating them and they just keep mass producing. Look what happened as soon as Humans didnt have a main predator within themsleves and had plenty of food to eat, we grew to 7 billion people. I wonder how many Deer will be flooding America, Canada when everyones Gunless, Meatless, Ballsless.
Await your cattle overlords.I neg:
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03-18-2016, 03:23 PM #142
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03-18-2016, 03:26 PM #144
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03-18-2016, 03:27 PM #145
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03-18-2016, 03:27 PM #146
BiteSizeVegan did not watch.
Come with a link to peer review, unbiased, no agenda information and I might consider it, till then I'll work on the hardwork of Billions of men and women who have shaped this world into what we know today and not the neckbeard reddit men and banana eating girls of today who think they know whats up.I neg:
- People that don't know how to properly use words like their, there, where, were etc.
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03-18-2016, 03:29 PM #147
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03-18-2016, 03:29 PM #148
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03-18-2016, 03:36 PM #149
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03-18-2016, 03:40 PM #150
Also, strong reading skills bro and if you read my previous posts I mentioned ALL plant because ALL plant fall under living ANIMALS in the ANIMAL KINGDOM.
Enjoy your synthetic chemical garbage or your hypocrisy because eating plants = eating animals and if you dont want to eat animals wait around for Fake Food with fake nutrients till then I'll survive like my ancestors by eating animals.I neg:
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