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Old 03-09-2008, 05:34 PM   #1
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Has anyone tried the new product from vyotech Anabolic 7? I am an NCAA drug tested athlete and am looking for safe legal supplements. I have tried 17-hd from Vyotech and loved it but am too scared to use it consistently as there may be a risk of me failing an NCAA urine test. Anyone use Anabolic 7 yet? Thank you
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:41 AM   #2
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eh ... ive never liked vyotech in general
... 17-hd was some hardcore bs
... and i heard (my boss just mentioned it and i have no real proof so dont quote me on it) that they are going to be getting out of the supplement business anyway

... so might as well not bother with it

... if ur lookin for a good bulking supp thats been real-world proven to give results i would recommend x-factor (AA), e-bol (ecdy), or size-on (awesome)
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Has anyone tried the new product from vyotech Anabolic 7? I am an NCAA drug tested athlete and am looking for safe legal supplements. I have tried 17-hd from Vyotech and loved it but am too scared to use it consistently as there may be a risk of me failing an NCAA urine test. Anyone use Anabolic 7 yet? Thank you
if you are an NCAA athlete, dont risk especially with a crappy product.
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Has anyone tried the new product from vyotech Anabolic 7? I am an NCAA drug tested athlete and am looking for safe legal supplements. I have tried 17-hd from Vyotech and loved it but am too scared to use it consistently as there may be a risk of me failing an NCAA urine test. Anyone use Anabolic 7 yet? Thank you
Isn't that a fenugreek product?
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EDIT : forgot you are a tested NCAA athlete, so nevermind and those are nonhormonal boosters.
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It has androstane in it. Besides it proabaly being a crappy product, I wouldnt use it because you are drug tested.

Maybe ask Patrick Arnold, he may be more familiar with drug testing procedures.
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it says that it is safe for ncaa, ioc, and other drug tested athletes. I was wondering if the effects are similiar to that of 17hd? and does anyone know from first hand experience if an NCAA athlete can take 17hd?
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I was excited when I heard VyoTech came out with Anabolic7 bcause i had used HD17 on many different occassions and got extremely good results, even better when stacked with Testanate50. However, I took the Anabolic7 and was totally disappointed. If you like VyoTech, stick with Viraloid. I loved that product and got great results from it.
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it says that it is safe for ncaa, ioc, and other drug tested athletes. I was wondering if the effects are similiar to that of 17hd? and does anyone know from first hand experience if an NCAA athlete can take 17hd?
If you fail a drug test then I guess you have a legit case to sue them.
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If you fail a drug test then I guess you have a legit case to sue them.
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doubt it.
Really? People can sue for anything. If the maker of a supplement is advertising a product as being safe to NCAA athletes and then it turns out it is not, then that is false advertising.

Muscletech has been sued for falsley (sp?) advertising hydroxycut as a fat burner. Google Iovate law suits over hydroxycut's false claims. Vyo-tech would settle out of court to avoid bad publicity because half, if not all, their consumer market is the young and uninformed. And this would certainly be bad advertising. Eg. "Another supplement company sued over false advertising. Causes failure in drug tests" Sales would be affected.
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Really? People can sue for anything. If the maker of a supplement is advertising a product as being safe to NCAA athletes and then it turns out it is not, then that is false advertising.

Muscletech has been sued for falsley (sp?) advertising hydroxycut as a fat burner. Google Iovate law suits over hydroxycut's false claims. Vyo-tech would settle out of court to avoid bad publicity because half, if not all, their consumer market is the young and uninformed. And this would certainly be bad advertising. Eg. "Another supplement company sued over false advertising. Causes failure in drug tests" Sales would be affected.
sure, but will the athlete have merit in doing so is the real question.
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sure, but will the athlete have merit in doing so is the real question.
Merit? Do you mean like conviction? I suppose that would depend on what the person had to loose/gain. A lot of people wouldnt mind making a public fool out of themselves for a quick buck.
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Merit? Do you mean like conviction? I suppose that would depend on what the person had to loose/gain. A lot of people wouldnt mind making a public fool out of themselves for a quick buck.
In the NFL for example, they state which companies you cannot buy from, however one bought such a product not on the list and tested positive for steroids and is now trying to sue them.

That is sure, people sue for anything. I dont know how strict NCAA is on test levels and ratios, so I would avoid it.
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In the NFL for example, they state which companies you cannot buy from, however one bought such a product not on the list and tested positive for steroids and is now trying to sue them.

That is sure, people sue for anything. I dont know how strict NCAA is on test levels and ratios, so I would avoid it.
I agree completely. The football player carries responsibility and he probably did know what he was taking. I think ALRI will be settlin' out of court.

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I agree completely. The football player carries responsibility and he probably did know what he was taking. I think ALRI will be settlin' out of court.
I doubt it, ALRI wasn't even on the approved list, so the responsibility lies with the player, not the company.
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soo where can i find this list?
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not sure if NCAA has such a list, but look it up, your coaches should be able to tell you where it is.
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Thanks- below is straight from the website. What you guys think as far as compliance?

Key ingredients clinically shown to increase FREE TESTOSTERONE by 154%
No Illegal Pro-Hormones or banned substances
Safe for all NCAA, IOC and Professional Sports Organizations

And here is the ingredients list. Thanks everyone.

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Chromium (As Polynicotinate) 120mcg 100%

Proprietary Blend 1856mg *
Testofen? (Fenugreek Extract Standardized For 50% Fenusides)
EcdyVol (Micro Enhanced Hydroylated 20 Beta Hydroxy Ecdysterone)
Dehyrovex (Micro Enhanced 3B Hydroxy 5 Androsten 17 One)
Eurovex (Eurycoma Longifolia 100:1 Extract)
Polygonum Cuspidatum (Standardized For Resveratrol)
ChrysoPure (Micro Enhanced Chrysin)
Sensoril? (Standardized For 8% Withanolides)
Prolactivex (Vitex Agnus)
L Theanine
L Arginine AKG
L Ornithine
L Glycine
L Tyrosine
L Glutamine
Banaba Extract (Standardized For Corosolic Acid)

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Other Ingredients:
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Thanks- below is straight from the website. What you guys think as far as compliance?

Key ingredients clinically shown to increase FREE TESTOSTERONE by 154%
No Illegal Pro-Hormones or banned substances
Safe for all NCAA, IOC and Professional Sports Organizations

And here is the ingredients list. Thanks everyone.

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Chromium (As Polynicotinate) 120mcg 100%

Proprietary Blend 1856mg *
Testofen? (Fenugreek Extract Standardized For 50% Fenusides)
EcdyVol (Micro Enhanced Hydroylated 20 Beta Hydroxy Ecdysterone)
Dehyrovex (Micro Enhanced 3B Hydroxy 5 Androsten 17 One)
Eurovex (Eurycoma Longifolia 100:1 Extract)
Polygonum Cuspidatum (Standardized For Resveratrol)
ChrysoPure (Micro Enhanced Chrysin)
Sensoril? (Standardized For 8% Withanolides)
Prolactivex (Vitex Agnus)
L Theanine
L Arginine AKG
L Ornithine
L Glycine
L Tyrosine
L Glutamine
Banaba Extract (Standardized For Corosolic Acid)

* Daily Values not established

Other Ingredients:
no wonder you would pass the test, HAHAHAHA the list is a joke!!!

Well too bad you are tested, creatine knocks the pants off that crap and I am sure you can use creatine right?
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Nevermind, I thought it was actually androsterone but it's not. It's DHEA.
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how do you know its DHEA? DHEA is banned by the NCAA and i would they think they would know that and not state that the product is NCAA compliant.
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how do you know its DHEA? DHEA is banned by the NCAA and i would they think they would know that and not state that the product is NCAA compliant.
Oh....my....god. I dont know why you keep glossing over this ingredient.

Google this ingredient 3 beta Hydroxy 5 Androsten 17 One and DHEA. Take some responsibility in researching the actual ingredients and do not trust what a supplement company tells you.
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Oh....my....god. I dont know why you keep glossing over this ingredient.

Google this ingredient 3 beta Hydroxy 5 Androsten 17 One and DHEA. Take some responsibility in researching the actual ingredients and do not trust what a supplement company tells you.
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