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Old 03-08-2008, 02:40 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Yes or No!!!!!!!

Now everybody hears that losing 1-2 lbs per week is the way to go when it comes to weight loss or losing fat( I personally don't agree). Yet you turn on a shows like Biggest Loser and these people are dropping tons of weight each weekand yet over time it slows down. I'm thinking ok that's lots of water weight,but when dropping water you'll but that back on after you drink or eat foods and they aren't butting it back on.I know these are bigger people so the weight will come off fastest but come on!!! Do you feel what they are doing is healthy?
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:46 AM   #2
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I can't imagine losing 16 pounds in one week healthy.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:47 AM   #3
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what are they doing? chopping their arms off then weighing? jeeeez.

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make the distinction between weight loss and fat loss.

It's EASY to loose 10lbs of weight within 3 or 4 days - all you have to do is just stop drinking water and stop eating all together.

Will you loose fat? Absolutley not, you will most likley loose water, and start breaking down muscle tissue almost immediatley because those proteins need to be broken down badly for other uses within the body to keep you alive.

Depending on your starting point and the individual, the generally well determined upper limit on PERMANENT FAT loss is somewhere between 1-2lbs per week. Even at 2lbs per week some muscle tissue would have to be sacraficed.
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I think they work out like 6 hours a day and have a very controlled diet while there. Plus they have the money encentive

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Can & does lead to hair loss lol (see the thread.)
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I don't know how they are doing it but 16lbs a week is a lot. Healthy to me is clean foods spread between 5-6 meals at a 300-500cal. deficit combined with Cardio/weights.

This being said many aren't healthy, but what happens is they go on an unhealthy lifestyle of eating that they can't continue forever and they CRASH and revert back to the eating habits that got them fat and a lot of the time rebound to worse then they were.
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at first when you weigh around 300 lbs its easy to loose weight a that pace !

when you go from eating 1 large pizza and a side of fries to eating salades and fish + working out wow the caloric defecit is enourmous !!

i went from 350 to 220 in 4 months, ive been keeping it of for 1 year and a half ,but 1 thing for sure i wouldnt recommend it i looked like ****! 2 bulks later and now starting to recover good lean muscle !
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Any weight loss show that punishes the competitors for gaining weight(maybe muscle) would be in the hot spot. I just don't understand people who have such weight problems would get on t.v. when there's a high chance of being sent home. Then what? They'll get depressed and go back to their lifestyle until they feel like their "ready" again to give working out and eating healthy another chance. Just doesn't make sense.
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If they don't like what they're going through on that show, they all have the option of leaving. They all can just half-ass it if they like and someone's gonna get kicked off, but what I see is a bunch of people who want it SO HARD they're willing to endure almost anything to get it. They're going to need that resolve to get them through the rest of their lives.

Learning how to make healthy food choices and making regular exercise a daily habit is certainly healthier than being 400lbs and 60% body fat. If a person gets kicked off early, at least they will know HOW to do it, which they didn't know beforehand.

If someone who's 100+lbs overweight loses 16lbs in a week, good for them. Sure, some of it is water but hey, some of it is also fat. Most of the human body is water anyway, if you're losing weight regardless of whether it's fat or muscle, you're losing water along with it. Exercising helps to ensure as little of it as possible is muscle. If they're 100+ overweight, they can lose up to 6lbs per week just from dieting alone without worrying about losing any muscle mass because they have enough fat to support faster losses. Exercising only enhances the fat loss and reduces the chances of muscle loss even further.

Whether the conditions of the show are unrealistic compared to real life is a moot point. Sure, they might exercise 6 hours a day. They might all have tendonitis the whole time. They might have doctors and nutritionists and trainers 24/7. They may or may not have access to those things at home. None of it matters because if they want it bad enough, they're going to find a way to get it. They will create their own "real life" to support their goals, just like serious bodybuilding competitors or professional athletes who want to be at the top of their game.
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If they don't like what they're going through on that show, they all have the option of leaving. They all can just half-ass it if they like and someone's gonna get kicked off, but what I see is a bunch of people who want it SO HARD they're willing to endure almost anything to get it. They're going to need that resolve to get them through the rest of their lives.

Learning how to make healthy food choices and making regular exercise a daily habit is certainly healthier than being 400lbs and 60% body fat. If a person gets kicked off early, at least they will know HOW to do it, which they didn't know beforehand.

If someone who's 100+lbs overweight loses 16lbs in a week, good for them. Sure, some of it is water but hey, some of it is also fat. Most of the human body is water anyway, if you're losing weight regardless of whether it's fat or muscle, you're losing water along with it. Exercising helps to ensure as little of it as possible is muscle. If they're 100+ overweight, they can lose up to 6lbs per week just from dieting alone without worrying about losing any muscle mass because they have enough fat to support faster losses. Exercising only enhances the fat loss and reduces the chances of muscle loss even further.

Whether the conditions of the show are unrealistic compared to real life is a moot point. Sure, they might exercise 6 hours a day. They might all have tendonitis the whole time. They might have doctors and nutritionists and trainers 24/7. They may or may not have access to those things at home. None of it matters because if they want it bad enough, they're going to find a way to get it. They will create their own "real life" to support their goals, just like serious bodybuilding competitors or professional athletes who want to be at the top of their game.

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People who are more overweight/obese tend to drop fat a lot faster with any increase in activity. So while for the average person 1-2 lbs a week is what is considered "healthy", for people who are morbidly obese any calorie restriction (to "normal levels") and exercise is going to have a much bigger effect. Also remember they are carrying around tons of extra weight anyway, so are expending much more energy just by moving at all.

I can't personally say that 15 or more lbs a week sounds healthy, but I have heard from many articles and such that very overweight people can expect much greater weight change when beginning a new nutrition/exercise program.
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If they don't like what they're going through on that show, they all have the option of leaving. They all can just half-ass it if they like and someone's gonna get kicked off, but what I see is a bunch of people who want it SO HARD they're willing to endure almost anything to get it. They're going to need that resolve to get them through the rest of their lives.

Learning how to make healthy food choices and making regular exercise a daily habit is certainly healthier than being 400lbs and 60% body fat. If a person gets kicked off early, at least they will know HOW to do it, which they didn't know beforehand.

If someone who's 100+lbs overweight loses 16lbs in a week, good for them. Sure, some of it is water but hey, some of it is also fat. Most of the human body is water anyway, if you're losing weight regardless of whether it's fat or muscle, you're losing water along with it. Exercising helps to ensure as little of it as possible is muscle. If they're 100+ overweight, they can lose up to 6lbs per week just from dieting alone without worrying about losing any muscle mass because they have enough fat to support faster losses. Exercising only enhances the fat loss and reduces the chances of muscle loss even further.

Whether the conditions of the show are unrealistic compared to real life is a moot point. Sure, they might exercise 6 hours a day. They might all have tendonitis the whole time. They might have doctors and nutritionists and trainers 24/7. They may or may not have access to those things at home. None of it matters because if they want it bad enough, they're going to find a way to get it. They will create their own "real life" to support their goals, just like serious bodybuilding competitors or professional athletes who want to be at the top of their game.
Well said.
My friend is 100lbs overweight and she went on South Beach and lost 14lbs in 14 days. And she didn't even exercise.
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Most of the contestants are also probably going form eating 5 pizza pies a day to eating correctly. Obese can drop a ton of weight just by eating right for a week. Alos, I think the show is longer than it appears. Between weeks I bet is about a month in real time for them.
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