Hard Nutrition is under NEW ownership! With new "supplement".

[Elliptical Envy]

I didn't neg the guy at all, but apparently enough people did to put him into worst rank status.

[SHOWTIME]

1 star all the way!

[History in Effect]

dylan and heather must be married or brother and sisters...

[SHOWTIME]

Hard Nutrition still has great supplements, assuming they dont trash what they had..

I do not plan on supporting them ever again but, their supplements(as of 1 month ago) were effective and of good quality.

[dvsness]

Originally Posted by History in Effect

dylan and heather must be married or brother and sisters...

http://blog.bodybuilding.com/dvsness...-gets-married/

[History in Effect]

Originally Posted by dvsness

http://blog.bodybuilding.com/dvsness...-gets-married/

Thanks. Of course you get repped

[dylanarmbrust]

Bottom line, and all drama aside. Hard Nutrition is a great line of supplements! Because they WORK! Thats my 2 cents!

By the way, I love being in the red! Nothing better than being hated by haters!

[fitnfirm]

Originally Posted by dylanarmbrust

Bottom line, and all drama aside. Hard Nutrition is a great line of supplements! Because they WORK! Thats my 2 cents!

By the way, I love being in the red! Nothing better than being hated by haters!

Fixed you in the green buddy

[punksurfer024]

Originally Posted by dylanarmbrust

Arent you guys MISinformed!

funny i was told the same thing from your wife in a PM but no-one wants to inform all of us misguided folk. Im an easy guy to convince just need some truth.....excuse me if im a little biased as with the new management i lost my job as a rep.

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Originally Posted by dylanarmbrust

Bottom line, and all drama aside. Hard Nutrition is a great line of supplements! Because they WORK! Thats my 2 cents!

By the way, I love being in the red! Nothing better than being hated by haters!

I'm confused. why were people neg repping you?

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by Cable Crossovers Customizer

I'm confused. why were people neg repping you?

I think he came in this thread acting out of control or something. Of course women are always pos repped no matter what they do.

[dylanarmbrust]

Thanks girls! For showing some love.

[fitnfirm]

Originally Posted by dylanarmbrust

Thanks girls! For showing some love.

The girls got yo back

[j_neatherlin]

are yall serious? you don't think people who watch UFC buy supplements? 99% of the people I know that watch UFC workout...women included! UFC is hugely popular with high school and college aged males - which is probably one of the largest groups of supplement consumers (younger people tend to buy into the hype more than us pawpaws and they are always searching for a shortcut to fulfill their instant gratification desires).

the best thing to ever happen to HARD Nutrition was Keith Jardine beating Chuck Liddell and then giving HARD huge props.

the fact is, marketing works and needs to be done to sell a product line...whether that be through athlete sponsorships or otherwise.

and Customizer...I am very disappointed in your short-sighted opinion of the typical UFC fan. I guess in your stereotypical world, the only people who bodybuild are homosexuals with small penises and an inferiority complex.

ultimately, this thread is a joke and is a bad reflection on HARD and its new ownership.

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Originally Posted by j_neatherlin

are yall serious? you don't think people who watch UFC buy supplements? 99% of the people I know that watch UFC workout...women included! UFC is hugely popular with high school and college aged males - which is probably one of the largest groups of supplement consumers (younger people tend to buy into the hype more than us pawpaws and they are always searching for a shortcut to fulfill their instant gratification desires).

the best thing to ever happen to HARD Nutrition was Keith Jardine beating Chuck Liddell and then giving HARD huge props.

the fact is, marketing works and needs to be done to sell a product line...whether that be through athlete sponsorships or otherwise.

and Customizer...I am very disappointed in your short-sighted opinion of the typical UFC fan. I guess in your stereotypical world, the only people who bodybuild are homosexuals with small penises and an inferiority complex.

ultimately, this thread is a joke and is a bad reflection on HARD and its new ownership.

think whatever you want dude, I never made that assumption of bodybuilders.

you may think sponsoring the UFC would work for a supp company, good for you. everyone's an expert with other people's money


the only, and I mean ONLY sponsorship that gets good ROI is a top level bodybuilder (top 3 at the O)

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Originally Posted by Cable Crossovers Customizer

think whatever you want dude, I never made that assumption of bodybuilders.

you may think sponsoring the UFC would work for a supp company, good for you. everyone's an expert with other people's money


the only, and I mean ONLY sponsorship that gets good ROI is a top level bodybuilder (top 3 at the O)

ohh and one more thing. I didn't make it that way. Don't shoot the messenger

[dylanarmbrust]

Originally Posted by j_neatherlin

are yall serious? you don't think people who watch UFC buy supplements? 99% of the people I know that watch UFC workout...women included! UFC is hugely popular with high school and college aged males - which is probably one of the largest groups of supplement consumers (younger people tend to buy into the hype more than us pawpaws and they are always searching for a shortcut to fulfill their instant gratification desires).

the best thing to ever happen to HARD Nutrition was Keith Jardine beating Chuck Liddell and then giving HARD huge props.

the fact is, marketing works and needs to be done to sell a product line...whether that be through athlete sponsorships or otherwise.

and Customizer...I am very disappointed in your short-sighted opinion of the typical UFC fan. I guess in your stereotypical world, the only people who bodybuild are homosexuals with small penises and an inferiority complex.

ultimately, this thread is a joke and is a bad reflection on HARD and its new ownership.

UFC is a fantastic new sport, one of the most exciting to watch! I make my living in the heath and fitness industry and this is just how I see it. The UFC is a sport of many different skills, there for a average MMA athlete is going to spend most his money on coaching and guidance. Once the fighter is at his best as far as skill is concerned, he or she will start looking for an edge. That edge being supplement enhancement, making his body bigger, stronger, faster, and that is where he is going to ask a bodybuilder or look into a muscle magazine to see what he or she takes for supplements and diet to get it done. I have had athletes of all types hound me on questions about what to take. Its just human nature, no one will ask a hockey coach to teach them to figure skate even though they are both done on ice! Bodybuilding is the catalyst for supplements and nutrition.

[dito]

Nobody better be dissing on B-rad. He's a good guy.

[dylanarmbrust]

Originally Posted by dito

Nobody better be dissing on B-rad. He's a good guy.

Enough. This thread has nothing to do with Brad. Let it go people.

This is just meant to be an announcement of what is to come and what is going on with Hard Nutrition.

[SHOWTIME]

Well almost all athletes use weights...and I would say more likely a new guy to MMA, would get much better info from a Boxer than someone who was just a BBer.

MMA doesn't need to isolate every muscle group ( within reason/as much)
The advice from a boxer with strength, endurance and getting to/maintain proper class weight seems like it would be much more idea.

As well not every pro-boxer uses steroids
a good chance every PRO BB [yes even some natural PROs(what a shock) use steroids as their supplements and also use supplements] believe it or not it isn't actually the BSN supps that made Ronnie Huge.

BTW Not all of this is directed towards you, clearly you know a infinite amount more about Bodybuilding than me. I am not trying to say I know more than you, our pics alone prove you have VAST amount of knowledge on some subjects than me.

Also why dont some of the HN reps/athletes under the new ownership, start showing some presence here. There are logs going on right now of your products with little to no interaction...

[An Inconvenient Bro]

I see now both Randy and Chuck have their own brands



LOL

[liftjunkie06]

I personally have never had better results from an NO supp than those I had/have on sizeagen. I stack it with green and black tea and have consistent gains. I hope there are no changes to the majority of the supp lineup. I couldn't care less who takes it. Sponsorships are way overrated anyway. Most of those people are using other stuff too, if you know what I mean. You can't put results on any one supp.

[TommyTuffGuy]

Dammit guys! UFC is NOT a new sport!

[leonidas300]

Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy

Dammit guys! UFC is NOT a new sport!

Compared to other sports it is. Under 20 years old = new sport

[punksurfer024]

Originally Posted by leonidas300

Compared to other sports it is. Under 20 years old = new sport

MMA is much older then 20 years

[punksurfer024]

Originally Posted by dylanarmbrust

Bodybuilding is the catalyst for supplements and nutrition.

this is hilarious, so you are implying the most athletes outside of BB dont use supplements? wow good idea, specifically target only one athlete and throw all others out and my misinformed mind has yet to be changed as no one has enlightened me on the way things really are with HARD....

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Originally Posted by punksurfer024

this is hilarious, so you are implying the most athletes outside of BB dont use supplements? wow good idea, specifically target only one athlete and throw all others out and my misinformed mind has yet to be changed as no one has enlightened me on the way things really are with HARD....

no I don't think that's what he was meaning. He is saying that when other sports participants look for advice on how to best use supps or pharmaceuticals they go to bodybuilders for answers.

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Originally Posted by Sapperdrol

Well almost all athletes use weights...and I would say more likely a new guy to MMA, would get much better info from a Boxer than someone who was just a BBer.

MMA doesn't need to isolate every muscle group ( within reason/as much)
The advice from a boxer with strength, endurance and getting to/maintain proper class weight seems like it would be much more idea.

you're talking about training here, not supps

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by Cable Crossovers Customizer

no I don't think that's what he was meaning. He is saying that when other sports participants look for advice on how to best use supps or pharmaceuticals they go to bodybuilders for answers.

Originally Posted by Cable Crossovers Customizer

you're talking about training here, not supps

I respect you on this board, but I disagree with your statements.
I 100% believe I could find 10+ actually quite a bit more people on here (non-competitive BBers) that would give me MUCH better supplement advice than a Bodybuilder even the top Pros like Cutler, J.Jackson, V.Martinez etc.
They would be able to hook me up with a schedule for steroids , as in how to use cycles through out the year. I believe if I asked about certain supplements, dosing, timing etc they would not necessarily give me the best advice.

Now there are a few Lifetime Natural BBers here on this site that can give awesome advice, but it would be rather foolish for me to go up to Jay Cutler and ask him for supplement advice, or Ronnie Coleman

And I will stck with my statement of if a guy in MMA wants advice (supplement wise) it would benefit him more to get advice from either another MMA guy or a boxer.

As you know obviously BBing is a complete different thing. I know you know this but there are a lot of similarities between MMA and Boxing in training, dieting and supplementing.

Although if I was a new MMA or boxer etc and wanted to do steroids I would most likely ask a BBer about the usage, if I didnt know anyone in my own sport.

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Originally Posted by Sapperdrol

I respect you on this board, but I disagree with your statements.
I 100% believe I could find 10+ actually quite a bit more people on here (non-competitive BBers) that would give me MUCH better supplement advice than a Bodybuilder even the top Pros like Cutler, J.Jackson, V.Martinez etc.
They would be able to hook me up with a schedule for steroids , as in how to use cycles through out the year. I believe if I asked about certain supplements, dosing, timing etc they would not necessarily give me the best advice.

Now there are a few Lifetime Natural BBers here on this site that can give awesome advice, but it would be rather foolish for me to go up to Jay Cutler and ask him for supplement advice, or Ronnie Coleman

And I will stck with my statement of if a guy in MMA wants advice (supplement wise) it would benefit him more to get advice from either another MMA guy or a boxer.

As you know obviously BBing is a complete different thing. I know you know this but there are a lot of similarities between MMA and Boxing in training, dieting and supplementing.

Although if I was a new MMA or boxer etc and wanted to do steroids I would most likely ask a BBer about the usage, if I didnt know anyone in my own sport.

I don't disagree with you, I was referring to what would work with a mass marketing campaign in the mags not what would be most effective for an individual athlete