Outline of Dave Palumbo's Diet For Cutting

[bosox1362]

I am hesitant to ask... But would sizeOn be okay to run with this diet?

Before you run and check, it is 14.5 sugars... I would think since it is drank during your workout it might be okay?

Another question is, I know it says to limit caffeine, does this mean pre-workout supplements (superpump, WF, ect.) are a no?

[getbustered]

Originally Posted by bosox1362

I am hesitant to ask... But would sizeOn be okay to run with this diet?

Before you run and check, it is 14.5 sugars... I would think since it is drank during your workout it might be okay?

Another question is, I know it says to limit caffeine, does this mean pre-workout supplements (superpump, WF, ect.) are a no?

It would be not okay in my opinion. Those sugars, especially taken during workout, would serve to replenish glycogen and go against the principle of the diet.

SizeOn is great, but save it for another time and another diet. Someone else might disagree, but that would be my logic.

[MattyH7688]

size on is NOT ok on this diet

[Captain Sagara]

Originally Posted by MattyH7688

size on is NOT ok on this diet

x3 ...

[randyrock]

I hope someone can offer me some advice on a few things regarding this diet. I have read up on the information available, but there are a few things I am still confused about...

I am 5'6, 152 pounds, and looking to lose fat at the moment before concentrating on building muscle.

How many nuts/nut butter should someone limit themselves to during a regular day? I think I am having too much at around 2 tbsp nut butter and 2 handfuls almonds per day.

Also I am having quite a bit of dairy. I would say it constitutes of 70g feta, 40g halloumi, 1 cup full fat yogurt, 1/2 cup goats milk.

I am also having red meat every other day along with around 4tbsp olive oil altogether.

Is this too much for fat loss? I have gone up by 2 pounds since starting this diet a week ago, and was wondering if this was normal?

I am hoping to lose the extra fat on my body ideally within the next 3 months. Then I want to start bulking - I live in New York and not on the coast, so bulking in the summer doesn't matter to me!

[MattyH7688]

Originally Posted by randyrock

I hope someone can offer me some advice on a few things regarding this diet. I have read up on the information available, but there are a few things I am still confused about...

I am 5'6, 152 pounds, and looking to lose fat at the moment before concentrating on building muscle.

How many nuts/nut butter should someone limit themselves to during a regular day? I think I am having too much at around 2 tbsp nut butter and 2 handfuls almonds per day.

Also I am having quite a bit of dairy. I would say it constitutes of 70g feta, 40g halloumi, 1 cup full fat yogurt, 1/2 cup goats milk.

I am also having red meat every other day along with around 4tbsp olive oil altogether.

Is this too much for fat loss? I have gone up by 2 pounds since starting this diet a week ago, and was wondering if this was normal?

I am hoping to lose the extra fat on my body ideally within the next 3 months. Then I want to start bulking - I live in New York and not on the coast, so bulking in the summer doesn't matter to me!

did you not read the thread at all

[Wtfomg]

how long can i do this diet is it safe for long term use

[MattyH7688]

Originally Posted by Wtfomg

how long can i do this diet is it safe for long term use

it is plenty safe for long term use

[getbustered]

Originally Posted by Wtfomg

how long can i do this diet is it safe for long term use

Yup. You should be good to go. Just keep your weekly carb-up/cheat meal in there and your metabolism should stay pretty well primed for fat loss. If this is a long-term deal I think the cheat meal is even more important because you are obviously going to be in a caloric deficit for much longer than contest prep.

[njmuscle66]

To the couple of people that PM me for these. I did have them at one time in a word file but it looks like I took the notes I needed and deleted the file. (I have a note book I keep with all the misc notes and crap on training, supplementation, etc)

I will keep looking though-Sorry guys

[Androgen-X]

Couple of Qs:

Whats the take on using clen with this diet?

also, the only guidelines given are for 200lb men and 250lb men. What about smaller people?

I'm a hair under 5"5 , 175lbs at about 14-15% and gonna lean out some before my next cycle. Ive used keto in the past and loved it; and looking back it was rather similar to this diet than to traditional keto.

[-J.HiZ-]

Originally Posted by Androgen-X

Couple of Qs:

Whats the take on using clen with this diet?

also, the only guidelines given are for 200lb men and 250lb men. What about smaller people?

I'm a hair under 5"5 , 175lbs at about 14-15% and gonna lean out some before my next cycle. Ive used keto in the past and loved it; and looking back it was rather similar to this diet than to traditional keto.

make sure the same foods just fit in your daily caloric intake. piece o' cake! (boy does that sounds good right about now)

[-J.HiZ-]

Originally Posted by Sick

Fiber helps burn fat! Everyone should take fiber 2x per day. Fiber actually helps increase the absorption of calcium.
When following my diet plan (which includes getting your brain into ketosis), there can be NO starchy carbs eaten!

Can someone get just a lil bit more granular about the fiber intake as "take fiber 2x per day" is kind of vague?

[MattyH7688]

Originally Posted by gynuine69

Can someone get just a lil bit more granular about the fiber intake as "take fiber 2x per day" is kind of vague?

2 teaspons i am guessing

i take in a **** load more than that though.. i make crystal light/orange metamucil slushies all day

[Wtfomg]

i need the recipe on those

[Captain Sagara]

anyone already had his cheat meal???

"there really is no limit to cheat meal calories. I guess as many as you can handle before you vomit all over yourself LOL"

I Lol'ed at this Palumbo answer...

[MattyH7688]

cheat meal thursday

[Androgen-X]

Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage

anyone already had his cheat meal???

"there really is no limit to cheat meal calories. I guess as many as you can handle before you vomit all over yourself LOL"

I Lol'ed at this Palumbo answer...

I thought he said 6k calories is the upper limit somewhere in his thread in the MD forum. He says start out the meal with real food and then eat junk.

[Captain Sagara]

Originally Posted by MattyH7688

cheat meal thursday

Cheat Meal friday......Gonna hit the burgers and fries pretty damn hard

[Captain Sagara]

Originally Posted by Androgen-X

I thought he said 6k calories is the upper limit somewhere in his thread in the MD forum. He says start out the meal with real food and then eat junk.

You don't have a limit of calories,just a limit of 500 g carbs

[Captain Sagara]

I'm guessing this is not a cheat meal but a "all you can eat in one sitting till vomit binge"

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage

anyone already had his cheat meal???

"there really is no limit to cheat meal calories. I guess as many as you can handle before you vomit all over yourself LOL"

I Lol'ed at this Palumbo answer...

I did, not supposed to have it first week, but it was superbowl Sunday so I caved. I started out with a 16 oz T-Bone and shredded lettuce with olive oil, then ate 2 slices of pizza, 12-15 small pieces of cake, then finished the rest of the frosting straight out of the can and popped a couple dozen whoppers. EDIT: Oh yeah and two full 16 oz glasses of Milk! Man I miss milk!

[-J.HiZ-]

Originally Posted by justletmein

I did, not supposed to have it first week, but it was superbowl Sunday so I caved. I started out with a 16 oz T-Bone and shredded lettuce with olive oil, then ate 2 slices of pizza, 12-15 small pieces of cake, then finished the rest of the frosting straight out of the can and popped a couple dozen whoppers.

you made my mouth water...

[deathhand]

just started this diest and i feel really hungry for some reason (lack of carbs i guess)

[Incinerated]

its my first day doing this diet and i feel great...

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by Incinerated

its my first day doing this diet and i feel great...

I don't think that's normal, I felt all fuzzy and weird for the first couple days.

[Incinerated]

Originally Posted by justletmein

I don't think that's normal, I felt all fuzzy and weird for the first couple days.

well I've done Keto before, my last diet was Super mother f*cking high in carbs (still alot in me i would imagine) and I'm also running ECY + LX.

[weezyfbaby]

hey i was wondering if i could ask u a question

i am 16 years old and what people on this site would call skinny fat im 5' 10'' weigh around 164-168lbs and i am around 14-18% BF i am weak i lost a good amout of BF over the summer and started to gain some muscle back, but sort of fell off diet over holidays. my stats are pitiful bench around 170 squat around 295lbs and military 125 lbs , what do you suggest? should i follow your diet or throw in some carbs. pre workout for some energy so i can gain muscle and strength

any help plz! repped!

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by weezyfbaby

hey i was wondering if i could ask u a question

i am 16 years old and what people on this site would call skinny fat im 5' 10'' weigh around 164-168lbs and i am around 14-18% BF i am weak i lost a good amout of BF over the summer and started to gain some muscle back, but sort of fell off diet over holidays. my stats are pitiful bench around 170 squat around 295lbs and military 125 lbs , what do you suggest? should i follow your diet or throw in some carbs. pre workout for some energy so i can gain muscle and strength

any help plz! repped!

From what I've read from DP's thread, this diet for cutting and basically the same thing for bulking only add 25g carbs per meal. Do not change the protein and fat content for the bulk, add the carbs and keep eating the same amount of the other stuff. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

P.S. Your lifts are not pitiful. Just do what you do and don't worry about how much weight is on the bar other than to keep it increasing consistently. For every person who can lift more than you there are 50 people out there who lift less than you in the general population.

[Yogurt]

On this diet, what is the best time to work out? Do you do cardio one day then workout the next? also do you take any sugar in while working out/post to replenish anything?