Does anyone actually believe in "Core" training? - Page 5

Defiant1 · 01-18-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nickmanzoni

how is tilting back and forth not instantly stess the prime movers in the squat?

Though you are smart defiant, I do notice how you kind of go off topic.

THOSE ARE THE STABILIZERS NOT THE PRIME MOVERS Your balance is being tested, not your squatting power. Newsflash: the world doesn't move like a swiss ball.

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No one was talking about performing 1rm whilst doing these exercises. Yes we were talking about overall power (somehow).... but that can be trained doing multiple reps. If you disagree, then there would be no one doing 6-10 rep sets at all.

you made a definitive statement about swiss ball training and bench presses...

If you read the prevalent literature about swiss ball traininig, you will see that power output is DECREASED for the main movement. You CAN'T train the movement as hard. It is a specific adaptation.

If you have any evidence now would be a good time to show it (re: bench presses/db presses on a swiss ball).

|ceman · 01-18-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Defiant1

If you have any evidence now would be a good time to show it (re: bench presses/db presses on a swiss ball).

You mean before he gets a time out?

mAssholio · 01-18-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nickmanzoni

Though you are smart defiant, I do notice how you kind of go off topic.

someone's gonna get raped

johnsbod · 01-18-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nickmanzoni

your kid is ugly... I should rip it's jaw off....

reported and negged

Grow up.

Kiknskreem · 01-18-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Defiant1

Newsflash: the world doesn't move like a swiss ball.

Naaah maan.... *puff puff*... you see, the world...

The world is a giant swiss ball. And we're all on it hurtling through space.

|ceman · 01-18-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsbod

reported and negged

Grow up.

I think red suits him more than green.

johnsbod · 01-18-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by little_dan

I think red suits him more than green.

I think so too. I hope he gets banned for saying that about AS's grandson.

BluntD · 01-18-2008, 02:24 PM

This thread needs some bong hits

|ceman · 01-18-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsbod

I think so too. I hope he gets banned for saying that about AS's grandson.

agreed. it was uncalled for.

AnaerobicAndrew · 01-18-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nickmanzoni

your kid is ugly... I should rip it's jaw off....

Oh snap at those negs manzoni!

You're the Kyo... welcome to the fray.

Ex-Terminator · 01-18-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pomaikai

Agree. Is there another definition for core that I am missing?

My personal definition of core is that overall "I'm strong" feeling. The main things that give me that are:

1. Clean and Press
2. Squats
3. Bench

TurboGodzilla · 01-18-2008, 02:45 PM

lol thats it! I am soo gonna use that! next time I get in a beef with someone...

The first thing I am gonna do is threaten is to rip their jaw off!

|ceman · 01-18-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboGodzilla

lol thats it! I am soo gonna use that! next time I get in a beef with someone...

The first thing I am gonna do is threaten is to rip their jaw off!

Remember to train all that jaw ripping on a bosu ball for maximal jaw ripping strength training ability!

TurboGodzilla · 01-18-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by little_dan

Remember to train all that jaw ripping on a bosu ball for maximal jaw ripping strength training ability!

make another joke like that and ILL EAT YOUR BRAINS!!!!

Oh that was just you being e-ironic

Black Bear · 01-18-2008, 03:23 PM

I mouthed off to nickmanzoni. Look what happened.

knowles.ja · 01-18-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bear

I mouthed off to nickmanzoni. Look what happened.

He gave you a mesioangular impaction?

|ceman · 01-18-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bear

I mouthed off to nickmanzoni. Look what happened.

That's not a bear jaw in that picture! NEGGED!

*rips black bear's jaw off*

PureAlpha · 01-18-2008, 03:30 PM

yes. i just don't believe in that bosu balls crap. i think the best thing you can do for your core is either overhead squat or heavy push press

Wezz · 01-18-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalt

Funny, I haven\'t seen any of your vids displaying ANYTHING you\'ve got.

On the other hand I\'ve never made any claims. Where\'s you overhead squat vid?

TurboGodzilla · 01-18-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bear

I mouthed off to nickmanzoni. Look what happened.

I dont think you understand... this isnt just some dislocated tooth we are messing with here...

This is serious! Its more like this...

gjohnson5 · 01-18-2008, 03:36 PM

I pulled an abdominal muscle once overhead pressing a good deal of weight without back support.
I practice doing overhead presses without back support from then on for just this purpose.

Black Bear · 01-18-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by knowles.ja

He gave you a mesioangular impaction?

Did your friend Crentist tell you to say that?

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Originally Posted by little_dan

That's not a bear jaw in that picture! NEGGED!

*rips black bear's jaw off*

I'm only half bear!

NEGGED!

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Originally Posted by TurboGodzilla

I dont think you understand... this isnt just some dislocated tooth we are messing with here...

This is serious!

A mesioangular impaction is nothing to joke about, I assure you.

knowles.ja · 01-18-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bear

Did your friend Crentist tell you to say that?

Nope, I actually knew that one. My wife did just have 4 wisdom teeth removed, you know.

**Forge3** · 01-18-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nickmanzoni

your kid is ugly... I should rip it's jaw off....

Your comment is waaaay out of line...I did ban your ass off!!!!!!!!

Justin_Haines · 01-18-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Forge3

Your comment is waaaay out of line...I did ban your ass off!!!!!!!!

Good job.

Can I have a rep please?

AHTTG · 01-18-2008, 04:31 PM

Oh man, I was late to this party. That's what I get for not clicking on "core" threads anymore.

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Originally Posted by Defiant1

Running on ice isn't going to make you a good sprinter.

lol. Don't want to see this gem go unnoticed.

TurboGodzilla · 01-18-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Forge3

Your comment is waaaay out of line...I did ban your ass off!!!!!!!!

ha good call. I'm still kind of chuckling, not at the ripping of a kids jaw, which is totally wrong, but the sheer intensity of the context he said it in... it just made it so much more of a hilariously psycho comment.

lol and how it comparatively came almost out of nowhere. haha what a character.

Above Existence · 01-18-2008, 05:40 PM

Heavy weighted sit-ups will get you goin'.

|ceman · 01-19-2008, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboGodzilla

ha good call. I'm still kind of chuckling, not at the ripping of a kids jaw, which is totally wrong, but the sheer intensity of the context he said it in... it just made it so much more of a hilariously psycho comment.

lol and how it comparatively came almost out of nowhere. haha what a character.

You mean this kind of intensity and alpha male-ness?

Al Swearengen · 01-19-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Defiant1

Running on ice isn't going to make you a good sprinter.

i'm thinking squats on ice... Defiant1 staring in "Squats On Ice"!!!!!

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Originally Posted by gjohnson5

I pulled an abdominal muscle once overhead pressing a good deal of weight without back support.
I practice doing overhead presses without back support from then on for just this purpose.

good idea, always better to attack our weak points than to avoid them.

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Originally Posted by Forge3

Your comment is waaaay out of line...I did ban your ass off!!!!!!!!

i figured old nick wouldn't last long with his strong social skillz.