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Muscle Tech VAPOR is a vasodilator, a drug or chemical that relaxes the smooth muscle in blood vessels, which causes them to dilate. Dilation of arterial blood vessels (mainly arterioles) lead to a decrease in blood pressure.

So this allows more blood flow to the muscle. It also will dilate the vessels in the brain. This will cause you headaches especially if you drink a lot of caffine. CAFFINE constricts the vessels in the brain (ever get caffine headaches?) Well Vapor does the opposite of caffine, this may cause your headaches.

Also Vapor will cause a drop in blood pressure which may cause you to faint. I like this product but I would only use it once a week or so when you want a good pump. Vapor could cause long term side effects which I can explain if anyone is interested.

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oh please do... i was takin it 5 times a week...
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:32 PM   #32
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Muscle Tech VAPOR is a vasodilator, a drug or chemical that relaxes the smooth muscle in blood vessels, which causes them to dilate. Dilation of arterial blood vessels (mainly arterioles) lead to a decrease in blood pressure.

So this allows more blood flow to the muscle. It also will dilate the vessels in the brain. This will cause you headaches especially if you drink a lot of caffine. CAFFINE constricts the vessels in the brain (ever get caffine headaches?) Well Vapor does the opposite of caffine, this may cause your headaches.

Also Vapor will cause a drop in blood pressure which may cause you to faint. I like this product but I would only use it once a week or so when you want a good pump. Vapor could cause long term side effects which I can explain if anyone is interested.

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I think your giving nv more credit than its due mate.Theres not much in nano vapor that will do much of anything.You mostly hear about the "amazing effects" from young guys under the age of say 25 with low bf and who will get off on just a cup of coffee .Ive been on it for weeks at double dosage and all it supplies really is the same as most no products - a slight boost in focus and energy, and at times a mild pump.But nothing that great.If this product scares you into the "once a week or so " dosing then i wouldnt go near sp250 or similar products.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:08 PM   #33
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r u sure?? im taking 2 right now n im gonna jump up to 3 next week...

so its gonna get me buggin out???
Yea i would get nauseous to the point of just lying on a bench at the gym thinking I was going to yak but couldnt. I also would get An extreme heart rate that I could feel beating through my chest (heart palpitations I guess theyre called?). The other thing it would give me are headaches that could make even the worst hangover seem timid by comparison. My advice is to not go over two, and if two starts losing its edge just discontinue use (preferably of all NO products u r taking) for at least two weeks then start again. Trust me, you'll thank me later
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Obviously certain dosages are going to effect everyone differently. I agree 100% not to go above three scoops. I guess my only question is how much water are you all drinking to get naseauses? I just started Nano vapor, but even in the past, I would take supps on an empty stomach before going to the gym and still be fine till I got home and ate something. More water, more pumps, and great time release, I am really liking NaNO Vapor right now.

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I would drink 2+ gallons a day so I dont think that was the problem, in fact the more water I drank the worse the naseau would get.
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Totally agree. Muscletech products are overpriced garbage. The ads are even funnier. They have like 8 professional bodybuidlers (Cutler, Badell, Jackson, Warren, Melvin Anthony) (cant think of the others) promoting their product. Gimme a break. The thing that makes me laugh the most is Anator p70. This is suppose to alter your genetic composition LOL....Sure, a powder can alter your genetics composition. I think you need something a little more complicated than that. Oh yeah, it's called GENETIC ENGINEERING!!! And they are SO expensive. It is ****

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I think your giving nv more credit than its due mate.Theres not much in nano vapor that will do much of anything.You mostly hear about the "amazing effects" from young guys under the age of say 25 with low bf and who will get off on just a cup of coffee .Ive been on it for weeks at double dosage and all it supplies really is the same as most no products - a slight boost in focus and energy, and at times a mild pump.But nothing that great.If this product scares you into the "once a week or so " dosing then i wouldnt go near sp250 or similar products.
It doesn't scare me, it's just a fact. My wife is a Cardio Vascular Tech at are local hospital, they use Vasodiolators. When in surgery they use this to thin the blood for pataints so they do not go into to cardiac arrest. Basically they do noninvasive heart surgery. Viagra is a Vasodiolator also, people with heart problems should not take this. I think you may be confused, it's not the caffine I am talking about, it's the Vasodiolator that is bad for you. Just a fair warring to everyone that uses Vapor!
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It doesn't scare me, it's just a fact. My wife is a Cardio Vascular Tech at are local hospital, they use Vasodiolators. When in surgery they use this to thin the blood for pataints so they do not go into to cardiac arrest. Basically they do noninvasive heart surgery. Viagra is a Vasodiolator also, people with heart problems should not take this. I think you may be confused, it's not the caffine I am talking about, it's the Vasodiolator that is bad for you. Just a fair warring to everyone that uses Vapor!
The Vasodiolator doesnt seem to affect me.I havent had any pump or headaches to speak of from it.If its so strong why not?Same as every one else, they dont get that much from it.Im not a mt hater because they put as much crap out there as anybody else, but this product wont give you any more trouble than any of the other no supps out there.
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The Vasodiolator doesnt seem to affect me.I havent had any pump or headaches to speak of from it.If its so strong why not?Same as every one else, they dont get that much from it.Im not a mt hater because they put as much crap out there as anybody else, but this product wont give you any more trouble than any of the other no supps out there.
With a Vasodiolator your body will eventually adjust to bring your body back to a normal, causing you to be possibly dependent on it's use.

It's all good though, we all take chances to increase our size with this crap they feed us. We just all love the pump bro, trust me I use my fair share of ****.
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It's all good though, we all take chances to increase our size with this crap they feed us. We just all love the pump bro, trust me I use my fair share of ****.
Yea, ive spent a small fortune on a lot of crap, only to be disillusioned by the rippoffs.There are a few good supps out there.But i think the very basic ones work the best.Protien powdwer, creatine mono, multi vitamin, etc.The majority of the new **** only works for newbies i reckon, then they grow immune to the effects after a while anyway.A lot of products out there now will be off the shelves after a few years anyway imo.....
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try drinking a lot of water, maybe a gallon a day. A lot of pre workout supplements tend to dehydrate people, especially me
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I tried bsn no xplode it works great with no side effects
i decided to go with muscle tech nano vapor
first day i took 1 scoop , i didnt feel any thing
second day i decided to take 2 scoops and
wow, veryyyyyyy great pump and energy , very fast acting also , i was very happy 4 results
after 3 times of great pump ,energy ,focus i had nausea some headache
i cannot continue with these effects but really the great pump and energy i felt i dont want to leave it
please someone advise me what to do and tell me y i feel this damn nausea?
Same here dude.

I decided to try this after several canisters of No-Xplode and got nausea after 1 scoop. I thought it might be just me, so I tried it again (1 scoop) and the same thing happened. Went back to No-Xplode (2-3 scoops) and all was well. I still have the canister of Vapor in my cabinet.
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:23 PM   #43
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just tke a pain reliver and maybe some rollaids it sounds stupid but its simple and worked for me with no xplode

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I used NaNo Vapor for about 2 months and never had any side effects. I started with one scoop then after the first month went to two. I got a great pump when using it. I switched over to No Explode cause a friend told me it was better. I get about the same pump.
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i have used NOxplode,Noshotgun,whiteflood,nanox9, and vapor.......Vapor is awesome you just have to take it right and with some carbs in your system...personally i eat some oats about 1 1/2 hours before consuming the vapor which is 2 scoops....also i drink about 20 ounces of water right after i take the vapor and the crash has gone. My lifts have gone up , energy is good, pump is awesome......even though it is muscletech this product is worth using.....if you can afford it.
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is not good! straight up for the price of one tub of it you can get 2 better no's such as no shotgun or maybe super pump
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I'm wondering if this is true for all NO products? I use NO Xplode all 5 of my training days per week. Is this a mistake? The last thing I need are long term problems...


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Muscle Tech VAPOR is a vasodilator, a drug or chemical that relaxes the smooth muscle in blood vessels, which causes them to dilate. Dilation of arterial blood vessels (mainly arterioles) lead to a decrease in blood pressure.

So this allows more blood flow to the muscle. It also will dilate the vessels in the brain. This will cause you headaches especially if you drink a lot of caffine. CAFFINE constricts the vessels in the brain (ever get caffine headaches?) Well Vapor does the opposite of caffine, this may cause your headaches.

Also Vapor will cause a drop in blood pressure which may cause you to faint. I like this product but I would only use it once a week or so when you want a good pump. Vapor could cause long term side effects which I can explain if anyone is interested.

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I agree. nano vaper is garbage like all muscletech products. super pump is great and so is no xplode, but no shotgun tastes like ****.

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if you feel nauseous or sick when you take a supplement that supplement is obviously complete crap.

do you know how much **** in in naNO? literally itd take days to research that chemical list they call the ingredients. getting a good pump in the gym doesnt mean you are getting gains but if thats what you want (a good pump) then more power to you

those things arent FDA approved meaning naNO (and other products) can be filled with **** that could harm you or actually cause negative side effects. I bet if the FDA started looking at these bodybuilding supplements half of them would be taken off the shelf

naNO along with all of muscletech's overpriced garbage line would go first. I know people that have taken naNO and all they get is the energy, but no noticeably bigger muscle gain
name a couple of FDA approved brands
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Does not surprise me because its a Muscletech product. The most overhyped and overpriced supplement on the market. I **** stuff better than muscetech products.
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Exclamation nano vapor

i have tried several preworkout products including nano vapor. all seem to have side effects , nausea, heaaches, symptons that i hate feel when im training. I take protein shakes with no problem i know its a whole different thing. natural workouts takes along time to develop any suggestion on a workout routine with just protein shakes
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I have been using vapor for about 2 weeks now. It does give you a good boost at the gym but I crash when i get home. I was told eating a big meal helps that. Another side effected I had was that I couldnt sleep at all everytime I took it. Any ways to counter act this?

and what is better vapor or xplode.
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You need to buil;d a taloerance to it. Its like no xplode atart with 1 scoop for a week then go up to 2 the next week. I felt lightheaded when I would take No Xplode for the first time.
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i havent witnessedd any side effects yet and i started my second week yesterday and am still goign with 1 scoop, still feeling the good pump and great focus, no nausea or light headedness, make sure to drink lots of water
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I have been using vapor for about 2 weeks now. It does give you a good boost at the gym but I crash when i get home. I was told eating a big meal helps that. Another side effected I had was that I couldnt sleep at all everytime I took it. Any ways to counter act this?

and what is better vapor or xplode.
i personally liek vapor better, ive used NO Xplode, Super Pump 250, and now Nano Vapor, NO was alright, didnt really feel much at all, super pump was awseom besides the ****s after workouts, and Nano is awsome so far no negatives YET, but i am only on my second week
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Could this cause longterm side effects with the use of just one 2.2lb container of it? also what are the side effects/risks you speak of? everybody is talking about how effective this stuff is which i have already seen for myself but if it's going to be bad for my health i'll toss it out right now
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I purchased nano vapor last week for the first time

day1- 1 scoop...semi empty stomach-felt nothing
day2- 1 scoop...totally empty stomach- felt weak tired
day3- 1.5 scoop...empty stomach...felt nothing again
day4- 2 scoops...empty stomach...felt nothing
day5- went back to store exchanged for some no xplode
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I tried nano vapor and the results i had we not good
I had an Energy rush for about 15 min and decent pump. Half way into my workout i would feel dizzy and needed to stop working out.
Bottom line this product does not work very well and contains to my ingredients in my opinion.
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i THINK IT EFFECTS DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS i GOT UP TO TWO SCOOPS AND THATS ABOUT IT I STILL GOT GOOD PUMPS FROM IT BUT, I KNOW OF BETTER STUFF THATS AFFORDABLE AND THE RESULTS ARE DAILY. YOU JUST GOTTA FIND WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU
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good results

I used vapor for a six week cycle 4 days a week
my first 2 times using it 1 scoop I got wicked headaches!!!!! after that thank god they went away or vapor would have ended up in the trash.
I olny take 1 scoop, I'm 6' 3" 200 lbs that has worked well for me. i haven't felt it necesary to take anymore.

taste (grape flavor) 7/10 mix with 4 oz water mixes well too

focus/energy 9/10 you want to keep going and your mind is dialed into every set.

pump 6/10 i don't respond well or can't tell the difference when it comes to pumps

I know muscle tech gets alot of bad press on this site. I buy my supps off price and reviews I bought vapor on sale and would buy it again for more than the $37.99 i paid here on bb.com

I used white flood for a month another good product gets alot of great reviews i would buy vapor again over white flood
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