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Old 01-03-2008, 03:21 AM   #31
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Ronnie will be the greatest ever to me, just as lee haney and dorian were in their eras. Ronnies era will be the most remembered I think.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:15 AM   #33
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its funny in a side by side comparison, Arnold looks bigger in the arms, chest, calves. The only thing Ronnie has on Arnold is that nasty gh gut, and his quads size.
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its funny in a side by side comparison, Arnold looks bigger in the arms, chest, calves. The only thing Ronnie has on Arnold is that nasty gh gut, and his quads size.
haha yeah ok....
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i think as long as he looks good, they wont kick ronnie out
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its funny in a side by side comparison, Arnold looks bigger in the arms, chest, calves. The only thing Ronnie has on Arnold is that nasty gh gut, and his quads size.
i wonder how many olympias he could have won if he had not retired...
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its funny in a side by side comparison, Arnold looks bigger in the arms, chest, calves. The only thing Ronnie has on Arnold is that nasty gh gut, and his quads size.
Lol funniest thing i've ever read on here. Let me guess, Arnolds back was bigger too right? Lay off the crack pipe buddy!!
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:59 PM   #38
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ok Arnold isn't bigger by number (ie. weight, etc), but he is definately Better.


Plus not to mention that now NPC/IFBB judges are looking more for the classic look then the mass monster.





My point exactly. sorry guys i prove my point with that pic
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ok Arnold isn't bigger by number (ie. weight, etc), but he is definately Better.


Plus not to mention that now NPC/IFBB judges are looking more for the classic look then the mass monster.





My point exactly. sorry guys i prove my point with that pic


Thats a terrible pic of Ronnie, I prefer his 96-2000 days. I can never understand people who say 05 was his best. He looks very unappealing there. Also, dont even try to pass that pic of as anywhere close to accurate.
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:09 PM   #40
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i agree he looked better eariler on in the game. Then he turned to ****, and won only because he was huge and still getting bigger every year
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****,they are looking more for the classic look???
Ohh now i understand why jay won...
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Oh wow. Please stop. Thris thread turns into a disaster. The last posts here. False and ridiculous.


1. 2005 was a very very great year for him.
2. The pic where he poses next to Arnold is from 2001, not his best showing, but he still looks better there IMO.
3. Arnold "better" than Ronnie? Please a moderator has to delete this post. Please.


It is so sad. Damn.
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guys in real life you cant pic and choose what you want to be in the spotlight,honestly i think way more people would pic arnolds,and frank zane looks over ronnie anyday,

but depends on the person really ...honestly i think being the size of JAY ,ronnie is like being OBESE ,but i enjoy watching BB ,and they have my respect ,and i do understand that thats what true BB is about they lived,breathed BB

wonder why back in arnolds day there thighs didnt develop as thick as todays BB'ers ,look at arnolds legs and ronnies ,i dont understand how everyone back then could have legs like arnold and people today have MORE meat so to speak on there legs

is that only odd to me??
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ok Arnold isn't bigger by number (ie. weight, etc), but he is definately Better.


Plus not to mention that now NPC/IFBB judges are looking more for the classic look then the mass monster.





My point exactly. sorry guys i prove my point with that pic
LOL, why not post Ronnie's best next to Arnold's best instead of Arnold's best with a pretty poor Ronnie?
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LOL, why not post Ronnie's best next to Arnold's best instead of Arnold's best with a pretty poor Ronnie?
did i say i made the picture, no. i just found comparisons
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Oh wow. Please stop. Thris thread turns into a disaster. The last posts here. False and ridiculous.


1. 2005 was a very very great year for him.
2. The pic where he poses next to Arnold is from 2001, not his best showing, but he still looks better there IMO.
3. Arnold "better" than Ronnie? Please a moderator has to delete this post. Please.


It is so sad. Damn.
alright there big guy like you know anything lol
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ok Arnold isn't bigger by number (ie. weight, etc), but he is definately Better.


Plus not to mention that now NPC/IFBB judges are looking more for the classic look then the mass monster.





My point exactly. sorry guys i prove my point with that pic
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you just created your own reality and are 100% certain it is true... Tell me more about this "receptor burnout" process please..
Okay, let me add to this topic. Certain receptors (I'm not sure about the androgen receptor) can go through desensitization where they get phosphorylated and actually taken up by the cell with the ligand bound to them and get degraded. SO, the ligand and the receptor are degraded which leads to a DECREASED response to a certain dose. Let's say you take 400 mg/ed of a certain drug. If this happens, you may need to take more of the drug to get the therapeutic response because the drug and receptor are degraded in the cell causing desensitization.

NOW, the androgen receptor is located INSIDE a cell, not in the plasma membrane. It actually acts as a transcription factor (once it's bound by DHT it goes into the nucleus, binds to DNA, and transcription for whatever it needs begins). I KNOW there are other methods in which receptors can go through desensitization other than phosphorylation, so there may be a way for that to occur with an intracellular receptor such as the androgen receptor, but I'm not sure of the method.
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Okay, let me add to this topic. Certain receptors (I'm not sure about the androgen receptor) can go through desensitization where they get phosphorylated and actually taken up by the cell with the ligand bound to them and get degraded. SO, the ligand and the receptor are degraded which leads to a DECREASED response to a certain dose. Let's say you take 400 mg/ed of a certain drug. If this happens, you may need to take more of the drug to get the therapeutic response because the drug and receptor are degraded in the cell causing desensitization.

NOW, the androgen receptor is located INSIDE a cell, not in the plasma membrane. It actually acts as a transcription factor (once it's bound by DHT it goes into the nucleus, binds to DNA, and transcription for whatever it needs begins). I KNOW there are other methods in which receptors can go through desensitization other than phosphorylation, so there may be a way for that to occur with an intracellular receptor such as the androgen receptor, but I'm not sure of the method.
Yep listen to this kid guys he's in med school I believe. Receptor burnout is 100% real..just read up on your physiology guys
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Receptor burnout is a myth lol, androgen receptors do not *burn out* or get *used up*. By the time they are flooded your system is flooded with new ones bud.
Please take a college physiology or molecular biology class. Not trying to be rude but receptor burnout (not just androgenic receptors) is very real and effects many people.
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Thats a terrible pic of Ronnie, I prefer his 96-2000 days. I can never understand people who say 05 was his best. He looks very unappealing there. Also, dont even try to pass that pic of as anywhere close to accurate.
Is that Arnie picture touched up? His legs look they have been edited and so does the back. Looks chopped.
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If Arnold Had Went After All The Mass .he Would Have Been 2xs Bigger Than Ronnie Ever Dreamed Of Being .he Went For Mass With Class .which Alls Coleman Is A Big Blog! I Rest My Case .and If Arnold Had Not Retired He Would Have Won Atleast 10 To 15 Mr Os . You Must Have Not Ever Seen Any Pics Of Arnold At His Biggest!
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Is that Arnie picture touched up? His legs look they have been edited and so does the back. Looks chopped.
i think that was the last year 1980 picture of Arnold. He had good definition in the legs then.

Doesn't really matter who was the best, lol. You should always respect the bodybuilders before you though
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nahh Ronnie and BSN have a good relationship and i think BSN will keep Ronnie for endorsing there products they would be foolish to drop him
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i think as long as he looks good, they wont kick ronnie out
what the hell!!...sorry to say but ronnie does not look good and i dnt think he will again...unless he comes down dramatically in size and cut the **** up..i doubt that
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