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Quote:
Originally Posted by warbird00
You have done 2 cycles of it? lol
It doesnt taste bad at all for a blend...
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Dang! 2 cycles??? You must be HYOOOOGE!
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09-19-2007, 01:15 AM
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Dang! 2 cycles??? You must be HYOOOOGE!
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ahhh, trolls invading the supp section!
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01-01-2008, 12:17 AM
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#153
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Originally Posted by dmangiarelli
If you look at the ingredients on EAS 100% Whey you will notice that Whey protein CONCENTRATE is listed before whey protein Isolate. This means that there is more concentrate (Less expensive and less effective) than isolate (more expensive and more effective). On the contrary if you look at the ingredient list for ON 100% Whey you will notice ISOLATE listed before concentrate. This basically means there is more of the first ingredient than the second.
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Actually ... no. While it is true that ingredients are normally listed in order of quantity, those ingredients listed between parentheses need not follow that rule. So for instance, if the ingredients list looks like that:
Whey Concentrate Protein, Soy Protein, Sugar
... then yes, there is more Whey then Soy in the product. However, if the ingredients list looks like that:
Protein Blend (Whey Concentrate Protein, Soy Protein), Sugar
... then no, it doesn't mean that there is more Whey than Soy in the mix. The content between parentheses (i.e. the constituents of the proprietary blend) do not have to be listed in order of quantity.
Sadly, this is a common "trick" used by even reputable companies to make you believe that you get something better than you actually do.
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01-01-2008, 08:25 AM
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I've read independant studies on protein bars where EAS was the only company to live up to the label claims... If I remember I'll come back here and cite.
I personally believe that whey prices are similar to gas prices, the suppliers can make a larger profit by increasing the price despite the fact that they may be getting their product for cheaper than before...
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01-01-2008, 09:52 AM
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Bodybuilding.com sells 5lbs of EAS 100% Whey Protein for 37.89 and Sams sells the exact same 100% Whey for 28 and change for 6lbs. So the Whey price of EA 's is close to every other protein on the net, just somehow Sams can sell it cheaper.
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01-01-2008, 10:47 AM
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#156
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never tried EAS but i did see the EAS whey protein at shoprite for 29.99. idk if its good or not
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01-01-2008, 03:28 PM
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im going to give it a try to EAS, it seems like a good reputable company 4 me! and i thinks its better ( in my opinion ) than Bodyfortress of those cheaper proteins.
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01-01-2008, 07:59 PM
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is this stuff really worht it and what flavs do they have
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01-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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No, I bought it, used all 6 pounds because I was broke and sure if you aren't a serious builder this will do, but I don't believe this to be high quality and I'm going back to my ON gold.
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01-06-2008, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkm399
No, I bought it, used all 6 pounds because I was broke and sure if you aren't a serious builder this will do, but I don't believe this to be high quality and I'm going back to my ON gold.
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Lol wut? If your a "serious" bodybuilder? Its freaking protein for god sakes, who cares.
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01-06-2008, 07:28 PM
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so can someone explain to me how the EAS protein is so incredibly bad but not the universal milk and egg?
when i compare the prices to TP (which we can all agree has good quality stuff), WPC is $5.89 (and EAS is $5) but calcium casienate and egg white protein found in the universal product are 10.99 and 10.79 respectively? and yet this product is 4.79.....seems like it would be more of a quality issue than EAS whey.
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01-06-2008, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 391rippy
so can someone explain to me how the EAS protein is so incredibly bad but not the universal milk and egg?
when i compare the prices to TP (which we can all agree has good quality stuff), WPC is $5.89 (and EAS is $5) but calcium casienate and egg white protein found in the universal product are 10.99 and 10.79 respectively? and yet this product is 4.79.....seems like it would be more of a quality issue than EAS whey.
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wait wait, so let me get this straight, you are comparing whey prices to egg and casein? you know there is a big difference between those.
Lets not forget some basic business, since EAS is sold in costco and other places, its safe to assume they do tons (literally) of volume thus they can afford to lower their prices.
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01-07-2008, 09:17 PM
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#163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zachattack43
wait wait, so let me get this straight, you are comparing whey prices to egg and casein? you know there is a big difference between those.
Lets not forget some basic business, since EAS is sold in costco and other places, its safe to assume they do tons (literally) of volume thus they can afford to lower their prices.
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no, i'm saying that high quality whey (5.89 a pound) is not that different than the $5 a pound for EAS, and considering the large quantities that EAS puts out, i don't doubt the qaulity too much.
however, quality egg and casein protein (both are over $10 at TP) has a big price difference over the 4.79 a pound for the Universal product. if people are going to assume that the EAS product is low quality based on it's price, i'm confused why this Universal product would be recommended instead.
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01-07-2008, 09:34 PM
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Is the Soy protein in this contain of the estrogen Isoflavones ?
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01-08-2008, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krat0s
Is the Soy protein in this contain of the estrogen Isoflavones ?
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if it's soy protein isolate, it should not have isoflavones.
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01-08-2008, 08:44 PM
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so does it or doesnt it have estrogen **** in it
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01-08-2008, 09:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by discoernie
so does it or doesnt it have estrogen **** in it
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yes, you will turn into a women if you do one cycle of EAS protein
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01-12-2008, 01:47 AM
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Bought 6lbs @ Sams Club tonight for $27.
There is no Soy in it. This is 100% Whey. I think the one at Costco DOES have Soy/Cassien.
As for the taste, like a dumbass I bought Vanilla as well, should have done choco, oh well. it tastes OK. Nothing great, I moved to this from Strawberry ON, that was a bit better tasting but way more $$
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02-28-2008, 03:30 PM
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EAS 100% Whey has 65mg of cholesterol...
try to find any food with that amount, and it'll probably be something not healthy for you.
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02-28-2008, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by duntuk
EAS 100% Whey has 65mg of cholesterol...
try to find any food with that amount, and it'll probably be something not healthy for you.
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Is it Good Cholesterol or Bad Cholesterol? Or are you just talking to hear yourself TYPE?
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02-28-2008, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by duntuk
EAS 100% Whey has 65mg of cholesterol...
try to find any food with that amount, and it'll probably be something not healthy for you.
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4oz of chicken breast has 55mg of cholesterol.
EAS 100% whey isn't the same thing as what costco sells either.
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02-28-2008, 03:49 PM
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i have used it, its not bad, more sugar then i want on a regular basis but great value.
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02-28-2008, 04:04 PM
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You guys that are buying this bargain brand protein REALLY need to get it tested out sometime to find out how much protein you are actually getting from it. You might be totally shocked to find out that when the FDA doesn't strongly regulate an industry people can get away with some very seedy business deals. Google "off spec protein" if you want to figure out how some of these companies are keeping such low prices despite their suppliers(the milk and protein manufacturers) prices have gone up considerably.
Have a shake of 100% EAS Whey with 2 scoops in water and tell me you don't feel some distention and bloat, then try 2 scoops whey from a company that backs up their product with certificates of analysis and tell me if it's not night and day difference.
If you want quality then please start looking elsewhere, you will be much more happy with your products trust me on that.
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02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottMcDWVU
You guys that are buying this bargain brand protein REALLY need to get it tested out sometime to find out how much protein you are actually getting from it. You might be totally shocked to find out that when the FDA doesn't strongly regulate an industry people can get away with some very seedy business deals. Google "off spec protein" if you want to figure out how some of these companies are keeping such low prices despite their suppliers(the milk and protein manufacturers) prices have gone up considerably.
Have a shake of 100% EAS Whey with 2 scoops in water and tell me you don't feel some distention and bloat, then try 2 scoops whey from a company that backs up their product with certificates of analysis and tell me if it's not night and day difference.
If you want quality then please start looking elsewhere, you will be much more happy with your products trust me on that.
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i don't notice a bloat, but i can jus tell that it's not the same quality.
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02-28-2008, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by db2012
i have used it, its not bad, more sugar then i want on a regular basis but great value.
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It only has like 2g of sugar or something
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Originally Posted by ScottMcDWVU
You guys that are buying this bargain brand protein REALLY need to get it tested out sometime to find out how much protein you are actually getting from it. You might be totally shocked to find out that when the FDA doesn't strongly regulate an industry people can get away with some very seedy business deals. Google "off spec protein" if you want to figure out how some of these companies are keeping such low prices despite their suppliers(the milk and protein manufacturers) prices have gone up considerably.
Have a shake of 100% EAS Whey with 2 scoops in water and tell me you don't feel some distention and bloat, then try 2 scoops whey from a company that backs up their product with certificates of analysis and tell me if it's not night and day difference.
If you want quality then please start looking elsewhere, you will be much more happy with your products trust me on that.
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Dude, you are missing the point, ppl buy EAS protein because they arent looking for a top notch quality product, they just want it cheap. And i have 3 protein shakes a day (not the best, but with a busy schedule have to do it) and feel no different than if i had "high quality protein" or chicken.
Also i couldnt give 2 ****s if they lie about their labels. I mean 2 scoops is 27p/3c/2f. It might be like 22/5/3 at the worst, but thats not much of a difference...
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02-28-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by warbird00
It only has like 2g of sugar or something
Dude, you are missing the point, ppl buy EAS protein because they arent looking for a top notch quality product, they just want it cheap. And i have 3 protein shakes a day (not the best, but with a busy schedule have to do it) and feel no different than if i had "high quality protein" or chicken.
Also i couldnt give 2 ****s if they lie about their labels. I mean 2 scoops is 27p/3c/2f. It might be like 22/5/3 at the worst, but thats not much of a difference...
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02-28-2008, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by warbird00
Dude, you are missing the point, ppl buy EAS protein because they arent looking for a top notch quality product, they just want it cheap. And i have 3 protein shakes a day (not the best, but with a busy schedule have to do it) and feel no different than if i had "high quality protein" or chicken.
Also i couldnt give 2 ****s if they lie about their labels. I mean 2 scoops is 27p/3c/2f. It might be like 22/5/3 at the worst, but thats not much of a difference...
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I think you're missing the point. If whey concentrate is 76-82% protein and some companies are buying stuff off spec that comes back at 50% or less(and don't believe for a second there aren't people out there not doing it) then you AREN'T saving any money. I'm not trying to sell anyone on here on Whey Isolates if they are on a budget, but if you are going to get concentrate then make sure it actually is what it claims to be.
If they are selling it to you for 4 dollars a lb(just off the top of my head) and it's only 50% of what it claims to be you aren't quite getting your money's worth are you?
Obviously people aren't figuring this stuff out because those companies are thriving, but for other people who actually want what they pay for I'm trying to give them a heads up.
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02-28-2008, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottMcDWVU
I think you're missing the point. If whey concentrate is 76-82% protein and some companies are buying stuff off spec that comes back at 50% or less(and don't believe for a second there aren't people out there not doing it) then you AREN'T saving any money. I'm not trying to sell anyone on here on Whey Isolates if they are on a budget, but if you are going to get concentrate then make sure it actually is what it claims to be.
If they are selling it to you for 4 dollars a lb(just off the top of my head) and it's only 50% of what it claims to be you aren't quite getting your money's worth are you?
Obviously people aren't figuring this stuff out because those companies are thriving, but for other people who actually want what they pay for I'm trying to give them a heads up.
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ahhh, i get it. damn, never thought about it that way. great point, repped
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02-28-2008, 11:16 PM
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EAS has always seemed like a trustworthy company to me, atleast in the past they were. Are they not associated with the NFL? and i could be wrong but i thought in order to be sold in department stores supplements need to meet label claims or something of that nature. I know somebody said something of this about having to have certain quality assurance test's to be sold in gnc?
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02-28-2008, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
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EAS 100% Whey has 65mg of cholesterol...
try to find any food with that amount, and it'll probably be something not healthy for you.
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eggs have roughly 200mg of cholestrol per egg
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