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Old 12-09-2007, 07:47 PM   #31
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nuff said..learn latin before you start with any other language. it's an easy language to learn anyway
Nah, this really doesn't make sense. If you want to learn French, it would make sense to learn French instead of Latin.

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We would suffer greatly? How? Cheap labor is not a good thing. I don't want to hear the rhetoric about Mexicans being the hardest working either. It's an argument that cannot be supported.
Actually cheap labor is very good for business. So the illegal immigration problem will never be fixed. If you can pay people less and in turn decrease salaries for everyone and allow higher profits and dividends for investors/shareholders why stop illegal immigration?

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lets just create a new language and make everyone learn it just to be fair.
That was tried. It's called Esperanto. It failed.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:50 PM   #32
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Nah, this really doesn't make sense. If you want to learn French, it would make sense to learn French instead of Latin.


Actually cheap labor is very good for business. So the illegal immigration problem will never be fixed. If you can pay people less and in turn decrease salaries for everyone and allow higher profits and dividends for investors/shareholders why stop illegal immigration?


That was tried. It's called Esperanto. It failed.
o yes how could i forget about esperanto. english is the main language of trade in most areas of the world so everyone learn that because i'm too lazy to learn your language
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o yes how could i forget about esperanto. english is the main language of trade in most areas of the world so everyone learn that because i'm too lazy to learn your language
In that case, you better make sure you know it damn well. I've seen foreigners who've never set foot in the US speak English more articulately (albeit with accents) than most people born here.
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In that case, you better make sure you know it damn well. I've seen foreigners who've never set foot in the US speak English more articulately (albeit with accents) than most people born here.
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We would suffer greatly? How? Cheap labor is not a good thing. I don't want to hear the rhetoric about Mexicans being the hardest working either. It's an argument that cannot be supported.

Illegal immigrants are a net drain on our economy, government, and taxpayers.

Sure, we'd try to hop the fence to reap the benefits of American social programs.
oh i totally agree that illegals reap benifits the american tax payer. but honestly what's the biggest demographic of people that build our roads and homes? i have no facts to back this up, but i would assume that mexican immigrants would be it. immigration is a problem that needs to be fixed, no doubt about it, but i just don't think the answer is to send 15 million(or whatever it is) immigrants back home.
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Actually cheap labor is very good for business. So the illegal immigration problem will never be fixed. If you can pay people less and in turn decrease salaries for everyone and allow higher profits and dividends for investors/shareholders why stop illegal immigration?
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html

Cheap labor may help an individual business generate a higher profit, but that is the extent of cheap labor's benefit.
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amen

you'd be surprised how many job applicants i get who mispell their own names or replace write for right.
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Cheap labor may help an individual business generate a higher profit, but that is the extent of cheap labor's benefit.
oh please anyone who really follows stuff like that knows whats going on

http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_hate.jsp?id=554
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*misspell

LOL, sorry, I had to.
goddamnit!!

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oh i totally agree that illegals reap benifits the american tax payer.
As such, we need to start eliminating the ability for illegals to gain access to these programs, whether it is through anchor babies, emergency rooms, or education.

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but honestly what's the biggest demographic of people that build our roads and homes? i have no facts to back this up, but i would assume that mexican immigrants would be it.
I honestly don't know where I would find information related to that. I doubt that there is any out there, but I have no reason to believe it to be true. Why would you assume that it is?

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immigration is a problem that needs to be fixed, no doubt about it, but i just don't think the answer is to send 15 million(or whatever it is) immigrants back home.
Amnesty isn't the answer either. I truly don't know what is. Eliminating incentives and securing the border is the first step of many to take. Although we can't deport all of the millions that are here, we should deport the ones we can. I don't see why we shouldn't. It's the law.
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As such, we need to start eliminating the ability for illegals to gain access to these programs, whether it is through anchor babies, emergency rooms, or education.
I honestly don't know where I would find information related to that. I doubt that there is any out there, but I have no reason to believe it to be true. Why would you assume that it is?
Amnesty isn't the answer either. I truly don't know what is. Eliminating incentives and securing the border is the first step of many to take. Although we can't deport all of the millions that are here, we should deport the ones we can. I don't see why we shouldn't. It's the law.
i'm not against deporting those that cause trouble it makes us look bad but those that do follow the law and don't steal, or cause trouble should have a chance at least

i'm off to bed, nite for now
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oh please anyone who really follows stuff like that knows whats going on

http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_hate.jsp?id=554
Colin? Cliff notes?
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Colin?
hell no! i read your links in their entirety lol
your turn to suffer lol

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i'm not against deporting those that cause trouble it makes us look bad but those that do follow the law and don't steal, or cause trouble should have a chance at least
A chance to apply for citizenship? Sure!
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hell no! i read your links in their entirety lol
your turn to suffer lol

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I don't see how the link you provided poses a counter to those that I had posted previously.
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Cheap labor may help an individual business generate a higher profit, but that is the extent of cheap labor's benefit.
Yes, I didn't state it was good for the average american. In fact wages for americans have been decreasing since 1987, even college graduates. The people that benefit from the increase profits and such really don't care about the people, if they did they wouldn't hire illegal immigrants.
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