Some Questions

BigJax21 · 12-04-2007, 02:31 AM

Hey, for those of you who are experienced with steroids and have knowledge I was just wondering some things. I have never taken steroids and am not necessarily planning on it, but I like to be informed. Whats a good stack to take for a newer person and why? Whats the difference between most of them? Is it really just one adds mass and one adds strength? Do you hafta take a estrogen blocker like nolvadex? Should a cycle be about 3 to 4 months? I ask these questions simply to know, I love learning about stuff like this, I just haven't had a lot of time to do research.

THe WeapoN · 12-04-2007, 02:50 AM

all these question can be answer in the stickies

Scribble · 12-04-2007, 03:50 AM

Yeah, man. Research some more and you can easily find the answers to all of your questions. Hell, most of your answers can easily be found if you search this forum.

PG · 12-04-2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJax21

Hey, for those of you who are experienced with steroids and have knowledge I was just wondering some things. I have never taken steroids and am not necessarily planning on it, but I like to be informed. Whats a good stack to take for a newer person and why? Whats the difference between most of them? Is it really just one adds mass and one adds strength? Do you hafta take a estrogen blocker like nolvadex? Should a cycle be about 3 to 4 months? I ask these questions simply to know, I love learning about stuff like this, I just haven't had a lot of time to do research.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5648371

jude-o · 12-04-2007, 04:40 AM

God knows why I sometimes humor the children. Must be a symptom of low tren levels. You are too young to be juicing. Unless you're aiming to be a pro athlete, wait until 25 or so. Right now your testosterone levels are probably disgustingly high naturally anyway.

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Whats a good stack to take for a newer person and why?

Testosterone enthate, around 500 mg/week. That's all you need to know. Don't try to get fancy; testosterone remains the classic steroid and obvious solution.

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Whats the difference between most of them?

Mainly they differ in potency (most are similar, tren is abnormally strong), in toxicity (orally active steroids are usually hard on your liver) and in how long they persist in your body (Deca lasts a long time, testosterone suspension is gone in a couple days at most.) Some are more masculinizing than others, but that's not likely to be a big concern for a male user.

In my opinion all the average person really needs to know is 'testosterone and tren'. Those two alone can meet almost all needs of almost all users.

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Is it really just one adds mass and one adds strength?

Not quite; all steroids help with both strength and mass. However, some do a better job at one or the other; testosterone is a classic mass builder, while tren is a legendary strength builder.

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Do you hafta take a estrogen blocker like nolvadex?

Not normally. Estrogen blockers become more of a 'need' when you get into the freakish dosages that most pros use. The average person taking a reasonable cycle shouldn't need them.

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Should a cycle be about 3 to 4 months?

That's the conventional wisdom, yes. Although its not as if the world ends if you go shorter or longer, that's just a time range many people feel is most comfortable and useful.

BigJax21 · 12-04-2007, 06:48 AM

Thanx Guys ill go check it out, and thanx Jude-o for the breakdown and everything. Im not looking to take steroids, really am just curious.

KrazeeNucker · 12-04-2007, 08:01 AM

Say i am just looking at doing more of a novice cycle for my first time around, cypionate or enanthate, clomid, nolvadex. Or do i even need the clomid or nolvidex? And if i am just doing straight test are my side effects going to be nearly as strong as say if i were to do d-bol,cypionate and nolvadex? I am just in the process of getting as much info as i can get before i decide to put anything into my body, i need some answers boys.

PG · 12-04-2007, 08:04 AM

more water retention, as well as more chances of gyno if you are gyno prone.

Read the link i posted above

Juicaholic · 12-04-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeNucker

Say i am just looking at doing more of a novice cycle for my first time around, cypionate or enanthate, clomid, nolvadex. Or do i even need the clomid or nolvidex? And if i am just doing straight test are my side effects going to be nearly as strong as say if i were to do d-bol,cypionate and nolvadex? I am just in the process of getting as much info as i can get before i decide to put anything into my body, i need some answers boys.

This is the second thread I saw this exact same post. Start a new thread for this but before you do, do more research cause you could easily get some of this answered on your own.

mustanglifter · 12-04-2007, 09:52 AM

It seems like the young ones want a quick answer and dont want to do the research that we had to do to learn what we have learned.

KrazeeNucker · 12-04-2007, 10:05 AM

This is not a quick answer, i have been working out for years now and have considered using steroids for quite some time, i am researching the products but i figure sometimes it helps to get a little input from people who have used and may have any suggestions.

KrazeeNucker · 12-04-2007, 01:43 PM

Thanks PG, that was a informational link.

T-- · 12-04-2007, 02:40 PM

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Not normally. Estrogen blockers become more of a 'need' when you get into the freakish dosages that most pros use. The average person taking a reasonable cycle shouldn't need them.

???

For a second I thought you recommended him to not have a PCT planned...

KrazeeNucker · 12-06-2007, 07:18 PM

so i have tried to read most of the stickies and have came to the conclusion that it is not an option to avoid getting high blood pressure when using test, is this an accurate assumption?