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Old 11-27-2007, 10:40 PM   #3511
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Endorush fo sho!!! Get grape, tastes like diet maple syrup....and my workouts are immaculate after drinking half a bottle.

Wondering why more people havent mentioned this? It is kinda pricey to buy RTDs....and its kinda new, but give it a try and lemme know what you think


Diet Maple Syrup? That sounds Gross! haha
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:00 PM   #3512
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well so far i've tried super pump 250 ...and i got something it was better than using nothing..... no shotgun when i switched back to taking it i could fill the focus and drive to kill the weights and my veins bulge as with the pumps you always can push that last forced rep with shotgun.....i dont get that from super pump sadly....maybe it needs to be stacked with the other one that they make and super pump....i forget the name though but they look almost identical
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:09 AM   #3513
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NO Explode is the best out there and I've tried NO Shotgun and Superpump 250. No Explode ftw!!!
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:41 AM   #3514
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Anyone tried ON's Vassive-NO ?

i got a free sample packet with my protein, had it and i did feel more alert mentally but not sure about the blood pump. Thinking of getting it anyone tried it??
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:58 AM   #3515
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I agree. Tried NO Explode and Animal's Pump. No Explode, at least for me, was much "stronger" and had better effect.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:29 AM   #3516
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Good Info

I am just getting started out and want to try out the NO-Xplode. Heard a lot of really good things about it all over the place. Is it useless to take a creatine supp with it? Very novice and looking for any help I can get
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:34 AM   #3517
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I am just getting started out and want to try out the NO-Xplode. Heard a lot of really good things about it all over the place. Is it useless to take a creatine supp with it? Very novice and looking for any help I can get
NO-Xplode will give you energy and focus from the stimulants and will give you a pump and some vascularity in the gym. Take BSN CellMass with it post-workout (creatine) for size and strength. Take both on an empty stomach, drink 1 gallon of water per day and also take some whey protein throughout the day. Follow the instructions exactly on both products for best results. Hope this helps you.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:13 PM   #3518
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Thumbs down That crap needs to be taken out of our supplements.

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OK - All doses as per morning doses

When I get up:

Vanadyl Sulphate 10mg

Vanadyl Sulfate... Why is this toxic garbage in our supplements?


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Hepatoxicity

Nephrotoxicity

Renal peroxidation

Central nervous system effects and/or neurological effects.

Depression of aortic cholesterol

Elevated organ vanadium

Phosphorylation/dephosphorylation inhibition

Na+ -K+ -ATPase inhibition

Depression of growth

Reproductive dysfunction

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"No more than 1.8 mg/day should be used in people. Some manufacturers promote high dosages (15 to 100 mg) of vanadyl sulfate per day, but studies do not support such dosages, and they may be toxic."


"Target Organs: Kidneys, liver, respiratory system, eyes, skin."


"May cause liver and kidney damage."


"May cause central nervous system effects and/or neurological effects."


"Causes digestive and respiratory tract irritation."


"May cause severe gastrointestinal tract irritation with nausea, vomiting and possible burns."


"May cause greenish-black tongue discoloration due to deposition of vanadium salts. Ingestion of large amounts may cause an increase in blood pressure."


"40% of the patients exhibited gastrointestinal disturbances and 40% exhibited green tongues. After intakes of 4.5 to 18 mg V/day over 6 to 10 weeks, the patients developed green tongues, cramps and diarrhea"


"a decrease in cystine caused by vanadium was presumably the reason for reduced amounts of coenzyme A. Coenzyme A is involved in the synthesis of cholesterol, and therefore may affect the occurrence of atherosclerosis."


"It is retained in highest amounts in the kidney, liver, testes, bone, and spleen."


"Most of the excessive retained (exogenous) vanadium is deposited in bone."


"vanadium accumulation may occur if relatively small excess doses are taken for a prolonged time."

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"people who are regularly exposed to high amount of metals, e.g., vanadium contained in certain dietary and musclebuilding regimens, may have increased risk for vascular diseases."
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What is this doing in NO products?

Oh yeah.... the reason I posted this here, is due to the FACT that vanadyl sulfate is a vasoconstrictor, yet it is found in NO products.... go figure.



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I really find it interesting that there are about six NO products on bb.com that contain vanadyl sulfate.... too bad it has been shown to induce pulmonary vasoconstriction, as a result of NO inhibition.


Environ Health Perspect. 2004 Feb;112(2):201-6.

Vanadyl sulfate inhibits NO production via threonine phosphorylation of eNOS.

Exposure to excessive vanadium occurs in some occupations and with consumption of some dietary regimens for weight reduction and body building. Because vanadium is vasoactive, individuals exposed to excessive vanadium may develop adverse vascular effects. We have previously shown that vanadyl sulfate causes acute pulmonary vasoconstriction, which could be attributed in part to inhibition of nitric oxide production. In the present study we investigated whether NO inhibition was related to phosphorylation of endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS). VOSO4 produced dose-dependent constriction of pulmonary arteries in isolated perfused lungs and pulmonary arterial rings and a right shift of the acetylcholine-dependent vasorelaxation curve. VOSO4 inhibited constitutive as well as A23187-stimulated NO production. Constitutive NO inhibition was accompanied by increased Thr495 (threonine at codon 495) phosphorylation of eNOS, which would inhibit eNOS activity. Thr495 phosphorylation of eNOS and inhibition of NO were partially reversed by pretreatment with calphostin C, a protein kinase C (PKC) inhibitor. There were no changes in Ser1177 (serine at codon 1177) or tyrosine phosphorylation of eNOS. These results indicate that VOSO4 induced acute pulmonary vasoconstriction that was mediated in part by the inhibition of endothelial NO production via PKC-dependent phosphorylation of Thr495 of eNOS. Exposure to excessive vanadium may contribute to pulmonary vascular diseases.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:17 PM   #3520
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Thumbs down The Nitric Oxide brand that doesn't triple my GPT levels in blood

We'll I've tried NO-explode and its true I love--er--loved it. Aww, I still do. Best 6 months of working out ever. Only problem is that when I had my blood tested before I went to work offshore I had really high GPT levels. Doctor said I prolly had Hep. so he ran tests which turned up neg. No surprise to me, since I'm celibate (that means I don't copulate). Yeh, so there really isn't a dilemma when I consider to abstain from drinking said frothy magick potion which would give me awesome workouts or continue taking the stuff and plan on signing my name at the end of some endless list for liver organ receipients (small fee of $75k not counting surgery or random donor procurement transaction fee by Chinese mafia via blackmarket--we-SO-sah-wee!!-bang-bang-chop, chop!).
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:21 AM   #3521
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which products specifically contain this?
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:52 AM   #3522
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has anybody tried MRI's new black powder yet? im currently on it and it works really sweet. ive tried the no explode shotgun and superpump. but id say that this black powder is better then them. i get an awesome pump and solid workout off it.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:55 PM   #3524
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Anything that contains vanadium in the microgram range is not the issue (eg. 25 or 100 mcg). Some companies are putting in mg's of the stuff.

Here are some products that contain it:
Controlled Labs White Flood, Millennium Sport Ragnarok, Millennium Sport Kreaceps, Dymatize Xpand.

And then there are the products that contain only vanadyl sulfate and recommend very very huge doses (up to 100 mg per day).
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Anything that contains vanadium in the microgram range is not the issue (eg. 25 or 100 mcg). Some companies are putting in mg's of the stuff.

Here are some products that contain it:
Controlled Labs White Flood, Millennium Sport Ragnarok, Millennium Sport Kreaceps, Dymatize Xpand.

And then there are the products that contain only vanadyl sulfate and recommend very very huge doses (up to 100 mg per day).

Thank you for helping spread the word terracotta.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:16 PM   #3526
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So far ive only taken Superpump 250 & Pride Dominate [weak **** but is decent when your 17 starting out]

Pride Dominate: Tasted exactly like lemonade. Mixability was decent. No pumps. Lower than most NO supp's caffine which is cool. great starter for newbies to get some body tolerance. 3/10

Superpump 250: Although i feel like im on an overdosage of x-lax i love the product. I really want to try something else because im almost at the bottom, but the pump is so awesome. My veins are ridiculous at the end of the workout and my muscles pop out as well .. especially my forearm for some reason, how ever i almost past out today when i got out of my car because i was so dehydrated is my guess. Drink lots of water. Definately recommended! 9/10
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So far ive only taken Superpump 250 & Pride Dominate [weak **** but is decent when your 17 starting out]

Pride Dominate: Tasted exactly like lemonade. Mixability was decent. No pumps. Lower than most NO supp's caffine which is cool. great starter for newbies to get some body tolerance. 3/10

Superpump 250: Although i feel like im on an overdosage of x-lax i love the product. I really want to try something else because im almost at the bottom, but the pump is so awesome. My veins are ridiculous at the end of the workout and my muscles pop out as well .. especially my forearm for some reason, how ever i almost past out today when i got out of my car because i was so dehydrated is my guess. Drink lots of water. Definately recommended! 9/10
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has anybody tried MRI's new black powder yet? im currently on it and it works really sweet. ive tried the no explode shotgun and superpump. but id say that this black powder is better then them. i get an awesome pump and solid workout off it.
yes! I love this stuff! Most vasuclarity I have ever had....it was almost frightening on the first day..no stomach issues either...overall a VERY SOLID product....just isn't sold here which I believe is a strong reason for it getting no love....but it is a very good pre-workout product
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pinnacle nox2 or no shotgun

i used noxplode for a while but i have to admit. it tastes amazing, but it sucks. it is mostly caffeine with a tiny bit of no and creatine. once you get used to the caffeine this stuff is basically useless.

Bull S Nutrition. They have some great marketing but their products are horrible. i tried nitrix too and its really weak.

i have to agree that maybe the fact that no shotgun tastes like ass might make it more effective. much better compared to noxplode. you can also add some tribulus and bcaas to it to give it some more kick.

nox2 if you want a pill thats just arginine. this stuff makes you feel like an animal.

i havent tried nanox9 but i might try it after i'm out of nox2.
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BSN's products are alright. They have good protein and good weight gainers. But when it comes to NO it is not as good as it is hyped. Every takes NO Xplode, i took it and saw nothing. The best NO is nano x9 and nano vapor. MuscleTech is far superior than BSN
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I started out with just Protein and Caffeine pre-workout. Then i tried Dynamatize Xpand, found it ok, I didnt put on any weight and it didnt seam much better than just Caffeine. After that i tried NO-Xplode and it was awesome, people can call BS but when i take NO-Xplode I pretty consistantly lift 10% more weight than with nothing. I switched back to Xpand for half a bottle because it was cheaper and felt nothing... back to NO-Xplode again and love it... its like gym crack...
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BSN's products are alright. They have good protein and good weight gainers. But when it comes to NO it is not as good as it is hyped. Every takes NO Xplode, i took it and saw nothing. The best NO is nano x9 and nano vapor. MuscleTech is far superior than BSN
I would probably agree with you on the BSN products. I took NO Xplode for about 2months and then after the first month and a half I was not seeing anything els from the product but that is just me. And I have been taking superpump250 for awhile now and the effects have yet to ware off. People say that while taking this product they have to go to the bathroom every second this problem does not affect me. And on the nano x9 and nano vapor I have yet to try.
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I've heard good things but the only problem for me is the price


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BSN's products are alright. They have good protein and good weight gainers. But when it comes to NO it is not as good as it is hyped. Every takes NO Xplode, i took it and saw nothing. The best NO is nano x9 and nano vapor. MuscleTech is far superior than BSN
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Ive tryed both Fast twitch and NO xplode for wrokout energy, and i found NO xplode to be much more effective, giving me endless energy
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