Nasser El Sonbaty = Biased?

[osamaelias]

Im not being offensive but this guys conversations are seriously hilarious, some maybe true but some stuff he states is way out of hand and should be removed.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm (the interview)

Example :

"You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).

Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.

He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.

Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised. "

Honestly why didnt he keep that to himself and not lower his standards even if it was true or not. He makes himself look like a 12 Yo kid bragging about how big he is. Imho his a disgrace and something that shouldnt be looked at for motivation. Regarding Milos , the guy gives free memberships , helps people, posts on forums and anything that can help. I dont know what his personal life is but he is a mentor to me and a great idol.

[Captain Britain]

lmao that milos part was funny as hell

[dedicated bb]

I don't see why Nasser would need to lie he seems like a very honest and open person, however we may never know whether what he sad is the truth. Personally though i believe what he's said because it doesn't sound to out there to be believable.

[gomez26]

Originally Posted by dedicated bb

I don't see why Nasser would need to lie

maybe he seeks attention the way he claims milos is. either way milos is still a part of this sport, trainin ppl, bein involved, . whats nassers input? just this interview?

[dedicated bb]

Originally Posted by gomez26

maybe he seeks attention the way he claims milos is. either way milos is still a part of this sport, trainin ppl, bein involved, . whats nassers input? just this interview?

Fair comment i honeslty dont know enough about it to make any further judgement i just based it off what i have read and seen in interviews of Nasser because he seems very well educated and honest.

[andyukguy]

Originally Posted by osamaelias

Regarding Milos , the guy gives free memberships , helps people, posts on forums and anything that can help. I dont know what his personal life is but he is a mentor to me and a great idol.

...and you're accusing El Sonbaty of bias?!

[sikboy]

Originally Posted by osamaelias

Im not being offensive but this guys conversations are seriously hilarious, some maybe true but some stuff he states is way out of hand and should be removed.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm (the interview)

Example :

"You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).

Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.

He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.

Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised. "

Honestly why didnt he keep that to himself and not lower his standards even if it was true or not. He makes himself look like a 12 Yo kid bragging about how big he is. Imho his a disgrace and something that shouldnt be looked at for motivation. Regarding Milos , the guy gives free memberships , helps people, posts on forums and anything that can help. I dont know what his personal life is but he is a mentor to me and a great idol.

He had a great physique and I respect him for his pro career, but he is behaving like a bitch there.

Originally Posted by dedicated bb

I don't see why Nasser would need to lie he seems like a very honest and open person, however we may never know whether what he sad is the truth. Personally though i believe what he's said because it doesn't sound to out there to be believable.

He said he never used synthol.

LOL

[tony404]

Originally Posted by osamaelias

Im not being offensive but this guys conversations are seriously hilarious, some maybe true but some stuff he states is way out of hand and should be removed.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm (the interview)

Example :

"You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).

Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.

He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.

Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised. "

Honestly why didnt he keep that to himself and not lower his standards even if it was true or not. He makes himself look like a 12 Yo kid bragging about how big he is. Imho his a disgrace and something that shouldnt be looked at for motivation. Regarding Milos , the guy gives free memberships , helps people, posts on forums and anything that can help. I dont know what his personal life is but he is a mentor to me and a great idol.

Its out of hand based on what ? Its probably true.

[Duckenheimer]

True or not (and I'm assuming it's true) Nasser has a hugely self pitying persecution complex.

[SOMEPARTS]

In the past 6 months I would say Flex, Milos, and Nasser have put forth quite a bit of truth about the business side of the IFBB and the 2007 O placings. The problem is that you have to consider the credibility of the source when deciphering what is true and what isn't. With age comes wisdom, perspective, and hindsight and while I respect what they did physique-wise their word will never shake anything up due to the AAS background and synthol use. It's the culture of pro bodybuilding, if you are critical of what is going on you constantly point the finger at yourself no matter if it's truth or not.

[osamaelias]

Originally Posted by SOMEPARTS

In the past 6 months I would say Flex, Milos, and Nasser have put forth quite a bit of truth about the business side of the IFBB and the 2007 O placings. The problem is that you have to consider the credibility of the source when deciphering what is true and what isn't. With age comes wisdom, perspective, and hindsight and while I respect what they did physique-wise their word will never shake anything up due to the AAS background and synthol use. It's the culture of pro bodybuilding, if you are critical of what is going on you constantly point the finger at yourself no matter if it's truth or not.

I Dont mind , let them synthol their heads in my honest opinion just saying some things should be kept for ones self.

[marcus84]

Milos' response:


Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?

Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law Wink)

Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."

It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.

After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.

Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".

Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...

I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"

Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....

My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"

He didn't answer.

Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).

Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... Wink. Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)

Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.

Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)

But - anyway...

Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)

At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...

Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.

To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...

The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...

Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...

They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...

I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...

But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?

Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... Wink

Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...

What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.p...659#msg2492659

[osamaelias]

Originally Posted by marcus84

Milos' response:


Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?

Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law Wink)

Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."

It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.

After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.

Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".

Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...

I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"

Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....

My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"

He didn't answer.

Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).

Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... Wink. Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)

Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.

Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)

But - anyway...

Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)

At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...

Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.

To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...

The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...

Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...

They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...

I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...

But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?

Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... Wink

Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...

What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.p...659#msg2492659

wow repped. ty much

[haggy0927]

Originally Posted by marcus84

Milos' response:


Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?

Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law Wink)

Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."

It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.

After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.

Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".

Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...

I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"

Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....

My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"

He didn't answer.

Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).

Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... Wink. Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)

Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.

Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)

But - anyway...

Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)

At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...

Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.

To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...

The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...

Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...

They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...

I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...

But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?

Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... Wink

Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...

What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.p...659#msg2492659

That's awesome ... why would Milos even waste his time? I mean really. It's obvious Nasser is an attention whore of monumental proportions. Just let him say what he will. Nasser is an idiot.

[sikboy]

Originally Posted by haggy0927

That's awesome ... why would Milos even waste his time? I mean really. It's obvious Nasser is an attention whore of monumental proportions. Just let him say what he will. Nasser is an idiot.

If someone publicly attacks you bro, no matter who you are and you know he is full of ****, you wanna set the record straight especially for the fans, no matter who you are, Nasser was foolish to put that **** in print IMO.

After reading what Nasser said, its hard to take him serious anymore.

[carman336]

Nasser is getting exactly what he wants from printing that garbage. Attention. I have to say that I really like seeing him on stage as he is just SO massive but he is definately out of line in what he writes about the IFBB. The IFBB is not without it's own set of problems but some people just take it too far. Another important thing to remember is that the olympia really is about more than just your physique. An Olympia title is about being the poster child and ambassador for the IFBB for a whole year. Individuals with a poor sportmans attitude like Nasser will never be placed in such an important position as Mr. O. I know alot of people don't want to hear this and want to say that the best physique at that moment should take home the title but the Olympia is more than that. In the same way that what we see on the stage is only a fraction of the work, what happens in the gym is just another fraction of what has to go on outside the gym with the fans and other important individuals within the sport.

[battousai216]

i have a lot more respect for milos then nasser, even if what nasser said is true(which i doubt) he should have just kept it to himself. Nasser was a great bodybuilder but the whole interview cause me to lose all respect for him.

[alaska21]

"So education was for me always way more important than physical performance or a muscular look. And today I am very grateful to my dad that he basically indoctrinated into me the necessity for education."

I dunno about the rest but that part is good

[RIP Quorthon]

Originally Posted by osamaelias

Im not being offensive but this guys conversations are seriously hilarious, some maybe true but some stuff he states is way out of hand and should be removed.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm (the interview)

Example :

"You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).

Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.

He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.

Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised. "

Honestly why didnt he keep that to himself and not lower his standards even if it was true or not. He makes himself look like a 12 Yo kid bragging about how big he is. Imho his a disgrace and something that shouldnt be looked at for motivation. Regarding Milos , the guy gives free memberships , helps people, posts on forums and anything that can help. I dont know what his personal life is but he is a mentor to me and a great idol.

I'd listen to Nasser over Milos any day of the week. Nasser is the man!!

[worldofwiz]

Most bodybuilders are biased not that it's a bad thing.

[manfred99]

prolly a bit of truth to each side, but id give milos the balance of favor. nasser claims milos craves to be centre of attention but its the 1st time ive ever heard of this **** & its comin from him so that says it all. milos responded which is fair enough, even if he juiced it up a bit here or there.. nasser definately seems paranoid everyones out to screw him so he's gotta get em first. the whole thing about milos spendin yrs writing fake journals just so one day he could trick someone was hilarious. durin nassers complainin about the fake info exchange, he just randomly threw in a cheap shot about how many wives milos went thru which was completely out of place, like what the fukk does that have to do with any of this ****? that says a lot about nasser & his motives. still the million dollar value of milos' advise to nasser is a bit exaggertaed i'll give nasser that much coz why didnt milos use it on himself with similar results. everyones different & reacts differently so if it hapeened to work that great for nasser theres always element of randomness in it reducing the value of the advice as some of it is chance.

but all good entertainment readin that & especially nassers first interview.

[JBit]

Originally Posted by battousai216

i have a lot more respect for milos then nasser, even if what nasser said is true(which i doubt) he should have just kept it to himself. Nasser was a great bodybuilder but the whole interview cause me to lose all respect for him.

Thats because your on the outside looking in. he's been in the game long enough to form what ever opinion he want's and since he no longer competes or cares to make a living off bodybuilding, he's free from those constraints and can say whatever he likes without reprocusions (unlike most).

[gracie331]

Nasser part three is up guys: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson324.htm

Enjoy

[sikboy]

Originally Posted by gracie331

Nasser part three is up guys: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson324.htm

Enjoy

"Also I do recommend steroids for all depressed males, and not anti depressants."

This is good advice from him.

[Anabolism1000]

Originally Posted by gracie331

Nasser part three is up guys: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson324.htm

Enjoy

There's a part 3!!!!!! lol

I gotta check that out! Whether true or false, it's entertaining.

[sikboy]

Originally Posted by Anabolism1000

There's a part 3!!!!!! lol

I gotta check that out! Whether true or false, it's entertaining.

Ya hes ragin on Wheeler now.

[Anabolism1000]

Originally Posted by sikboy

Ya hes ragin on Wheeler now.

That was awesome man! He was pretty rough on Shawn Ray too. It was great to hear good stuff about the Weiders too.

Said at the end that part 4 is coming. Can't wait.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by marcus84

Milos' response:


Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?

Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law Wink)

Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."

It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.

After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.

Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".

Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...

I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"

Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....

My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"

He didn't answer.

Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).

Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... Wink. Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)

Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.

Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)

But - anyway...

Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)

At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...

Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.

To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...

The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...

Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...

They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...

I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...

But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?

Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... Wink

Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...

What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.p...659#msg2492659

and we know his story has anymore truth than nassers because?????

[Anabolism1000]

Just a couple of minor observations. I think that when you're deeply involved with something, like professional bbers are with bbing, it's easy to lose sight of the forest from the trees.

It seems that since Nasser retired, he's had a lot of time to reflect and analyze the stuff that's happened to him during his bodybuilding career, and it's all flooding out during these interviews.

My gut feeling is that Nasser is being as honest as he can be, and he's telling the truth of his feelings about what he observed as a bber. I get a good feeling about this guy. I believe him. JMHO.

[-RiK-]

wow, great read. i have a lot of respect for nasser.