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    so cycling isn't necessary for this product? how about after 90 days? would it still be safe to continue taking the product without taking a bit of time off...the only reason I'm asking is because it says take product for 60 days then take 2 weeks off
    correct, cycling is optional. the 90 day mark and beyond is safe, no reason you cant take it longer if you want.
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    Hey CL
    got blue gene on the way and plan on using it. question for you guys is,
    cissus is anti-flammatory so i assume thats a no go with AA. as of now im on AA.
    once im done the 50 days or so of x-factor should i take a week or so off to kind of rid the extra AA in my body or could i jump on blue gene as soon as day 51 hits?

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    Originally Posted by Talos View Post
    Hey CL
    got blue gene on the way and plan on using it. question for you guys is,
    cissus is anti-flammatory so i assume thats a no go with AA. as of now im on AA.
    once im done the 50 days or so of x-factor should i take a week or so off to kind of rid the extra AA in my body or could i jump on blue gene as soon as day 51 hits?

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    I personally would low dose the AA (1/2 or 1/3 dose) and stay on the Blue GENE
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    ok thanks alot
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    will do. plan on running it november and december, should have a one page or so review by jan
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    can blue gene be used with AA, or will they interfear with each other
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    Originally Posted by DRR32890 View Post
    can blue gene be used with AA, or will they interfear with each other
    Personally I'd low dose the AA, and it should be just fine with BG
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    Personally I'd low dose the AA, and it should be just fine with BG
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    ok thanks man
    No problem, keep us updated on your results. You could also (of course) run them separately
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    No problem, keep us updated on your results. You could also (of course) run them separately
    i think i probably will. i really like blue gene but i dont want to risk losing any benefits of the AA. on another note is the lift your label promo still going on? im getting close to 15 UPCs
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    Originally Posted by DRR32890 View Post
    i think i probably will. i really like blue gene but i dont want to risk losing any benefits of the AA. on another note is the lift your label promo still going on? im getting close to 15 UPCs
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    ahh thats awesome thanks again
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    ahh thats awesome thanks again
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    with the ph ban i foresee more people trying bg :-)
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    Im 1 week into my first bottle of E-Bol and from what people have been saying its going to be pretty sweet. So I was wondering, cuz I really want to try BG, if I end up loving E-Bol and not wanting to come off it, can BG be stacked with E-Bol? Cuz it seems that these are the two best non-hormonal anabolics on the market.
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    Originally Posted by Persch889 View Post
    Im 1 week into my first bottle of E-Bol and from what people have been saying its going to be pretty sweet. So I was wondering, cuz I really want to try BG, if I end up loving E-Bol and not wanting to come off it, can BG be stacked with E-Bol? Cuz it seems that these are the two best non-hormonal anabolics on the market.
    Is it the old or new E-bol ?
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    Is it the old or new E-bol ?
    New. The reformulated version that just came out.
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    Im 1 week into my first bottle of E-Bol and from what people have been saying its going to be pretty sweet. So I was wondering, cuz I really want to try BG, if I end up loving E-Bol and not wanting to come off it, can BG be stacked with E-Bol? Cuz it seems that these are the two best non-hormonal anabolics on the market.
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    Blue Gene/E-Bol Log is up for anyone who is interested.

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    Blue Gene/E-Bol Log is up for anyone who is interested.

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    Could carao possibly affect SHBG?

    I had already attributed the increased vascularity form carao to enhanced RBC and had assumed the same increased RBC might explain the improved endurance (like blood doping or EPO) but I still had never been able to explain the sexual sides. Simply stated, I always felt like I was on test when I used carao, but I wasn't getting any estrogenic sides. It just felt like good clean test.

    This would be the effect of increased free testosterone. When testosterone becomes bonded to a carrier protein it becomes useless. You have to have free testosterone to have sexual interest, sexual function, and in the case of AAS improved strength and muscle mass. Free testosterone does not create more testosterone in the body (leading to estrogen.) It simply makes more testosterone available for use.

    I am currently on 2,000mg test wk/100mg winstrol ED. I was taking 2,000mg test wk/400mg deca wk/50mg d-bol ED. For the first 8 weeks of this cycle I was also taking about one tablespoon of carao ED or EOD. About two to three weeks ago my carao supply began to dwindle... then I ran out.

    I've got to back up here and give some background information: as I said earlier I am 43 years old. I am currently 6'4" and 240lbs. I have been juicing for almost 20 years, and by this time I know my body and cycles extremely well. I had plateued years ago in strength and size gains. I'd go up. I'd go down. But I would never really exceed the strength gains I had made in the past.

    Until this year...

    This year, about 3-4 weeks after finishing a fina/whinny/test cycle I noticed my strength going up to all time PR highs. These gains continued until I started my current cycle in mid-October and were continuing until about two weeks ago. Then I ran out of carao and at about the same time my gains stopped. (I've just ordered 4 more bottles... so I will have a clear picture in January if my gains kick back in. And YES, to the observant, I do very long cycles.)

    My question now is:

    Does carao affect SHBG and does this explain why and how I made some of the gains I experienced - most importantly does this explain why I continued to grow well on 2,000 mg of test when I had previously peaked out?

    If carao affects SHBG this would explain why so many of us carao users have been walking around for the last many months like horn dogs ready to hump wood. The sexual enhancement aspects of carao are definite and noticable, maybe to the point of distraction. (But that is fun for some.) Its just very interesting to me that Nelson's theory might explain why I woke up this morning with a woody.
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