[cxm]

Here is my problem with Syntrax


-They use shills on BB boards to make positive feedback

Originally Posted by Aeternitatis

We've seen it happen many times before. Who could forget the early days with some companies (rather well known). And more recently the thing with a certain Factory associated with animal food and their secret reps. But is it worse than first assumed? That's what I want to find out and where I want the input of some of the more experienced "veteran" members.

We've gathered some interesting information showing what could easily be posting patterns among a large group of aliases. But I'm not going to make any claims or accusations. I want others to take a look and decide with a critical eye what is occuring here.

Piece one, the most compelling:
<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/fiat_lux_/thejonny55.gif>

The subject of posting as well as posting patterns among these screen names is strikingly similar. Though I suppose with it being only 5 names, the coincidence is at least somewhat likely.

But what about the following? They seem to have registered in particular groups which wouldn't normally be srange for such a large forum as BB.com. But they are also active in the same threads and topics and tend to agree with one another.

AFHC Joined Dec 12th.
Adyn joined Dec 12th.
Dasa Joined Dec 12th.
Downwitit joined Dec 22.
Musicfreak Joined Dec 22.
Assfault Joined Dec 22.
Rollin10s Joined Dec 22.
Jonnyquest joined September 14th.
Jumpjackflash Joined September 14th.
Carterharris Joined September 19th.
Brucethejuice Joined September 19th.
Paulclayton joined September 19th.
Marcmathews joined September 19th.
Davedepezio Joined Sep 19th.
Otter2u joined September 20th.
Hammerhands joined September 20th.
Ironmelter joined September 20th.
Bballstar joined September 20th.

A simple search of posts by these members will have you seeing that they all tend to support the same subjects. In many cases they appear to gather en masse into the same threads. If indeed these are all aliases of the same person, it's comical to picture this person having a conversation with themselves on a public forum.

If you're asking why this matters, consider first the board rules. It is against rules to have more than one screen name or to have undercover company reps. But more importantly, this is about maintaining the integrity of the information found here. Many have started to question the validity of the info on BB.com because of the prevalence of company reps. It is easy to imagine how that validity could be further warped by secret reps with numerous screen names. That is why I want to get to the bottom of this.

If I'm wrong (and I sorta hope I am), I'll be happy to apologize to the members who might have been wrongly suspected.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=790646

-They push "The Matrix" as a pre-bed formula, having the Syntrax board rep posting "The matrix has ample casein". But in reality, it's underdosed

Originally Posted by The Bigcheese

Why is Syntrax Matrix 5.0 so much cheaper then other casein protein??????
does anyone know the answer to this??

Originally Posted by cakedonkey

Roughly 80:20 whey:casein/egg.

Originally Posted by cakedonkey

Those percentages I originally found out from sawastea who said he had heard this from the president of Syntrax on their board a little while back.

Alone, with water, probably not. It is basically whey with casein/egg sprinkled in. However, for the price Syntrax is asking, it's a great deal for a blend. Just mix it with milk/natty PB and you should be set.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ght=matrix+5.0

-They have issues with past products that have endangered the lives and personal health of their customers

Originally Posted by deserusan

All the logs people are talking about with regards to Fyre were sponsored because Syntrax is not allowed to publish in mainstream bodybuilding magazines due to debts owed to the publishers since 2002. Also, most of the folks using Fyre don't even know what true cutting really is. Plus, are you going to trust a fatburner from a company who's last fatburner killed a few people and put them in the hospital?

"Severe hepatotoxicity associated with the dietary supplement LipoKinetix.

* Favreau JT,
* Ryu ML,
* Braunstein G,
* Orshansky G,
* Park SS,
* Coody GL,
* Love LA,
* Fong TL.

Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Burns and Allen Research Institute, University of California, Los Angeles, School of Medicine, Los Angeles, California 90048, USA. joya.favreau@cshs.org

BACKGROUND: LipoKinetix (Syntrax, Cape Girardeau, Missouri) is a dietary supplement marketed for weight loss. OBJECTIVE: To describe a possible causal association between LipoKinetix and hepatotoxicity. DESIGN: Case series. SETTING: Outpatient clinic, tertiary care hospital, and U.S. Food and Drug Administration databases. INTERVENTION: Routine medical and supportive care. MEASUREMENTS: Clinical and laboratory evaluation. RESULTS: All patients developed acute hepatotoxicity within 3 months of starting LipoKinetix. At presentation, symptoms and results of laboratory tests were characteristic of acute hepatitis. All patients recovered spontaneously after LipoKinetix use was discontinued. Three of the seven patients, including one who developed fulminant hepatic failure complicated by cerebral edema, were taking LipoKinetix alone at the time of presentation. Of the four patients who were taking multiple supplements, two resumed taking supplements other than LipoKinetix without incident. CONCLUSIONS: The use of LipoKinetix may be associated with hepatotoxicity. Despite extensive evaluations, no other cause for hepatotoxicity could be identified in the seven patients studied."

Feel free to read the full text which was published in a major medical Journal:
http://www.annals.org/cgi/reprint/136/8/590

Best

-Des

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=37

-They have shameless pimping for a product from a Syntrax rep and call it a "review"

Originally Posted by cxm

Yeah it just cracks me up on how this can be called a review. Of course he is going to post a positive review/promo on this, he works for them.



Presenting new flavor for "The Matrix 5.0"

Mix it with milk to make up for the underdosed casein in the Matrix.

Awesome taste, beats ON hands down!

Coming soon to your fine online stores.

No way, this really doesn't sound like an advertisement/promotion.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=18


After all these issues, why purchase products from Syntrax when there are many others with at least equal or better quality and price???