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i wonder what the results would have been with no pct? but that is an unnecessary risk to take.

lol

what area?

those are some pretty big size gains, what brand did you go with CEL? How are the strength gains?

bump b4 i go to bed

pretty good, kept all my strength while losing some body fat.

My question for you experience Phera users is, is the acne really that much worse than other ph's. Only thing i have done so far is h-drol and i have not had any from that.

confused about what?

its just one day...don't worry about it.

legs

why DB and BB. IMO BB or DB press, side raise, front raise, bent over raise.

Ya I would stack it with bold if it were not so dam expensive.

bump

I'm considering a cycle of p-plex at 15/15/15 with havoc at 30/30/30/30. Thoughts? suggestions? advice?

I know that i was just wondering why he wants something that is a non methyl.

they contain the same ingredients, its just two different ways of writing a name for the same compound. so it is a methly, why are you so concerned over liver damage? you want to drink on cycle or...

you should check out phera. I have never personally ran it but i have heard lots of good things from it and its apparently a great bulker. I was planning on using it but i decided to go with...

the original manufacturer stopped making them but tons of company's are making clones.

Just buy the cheapest possible caffeine pills.

yep and this is the wrong section you want http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17