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  • Okay. There weren't any studies that looked at...

    Okay. There weren't any studies that looked at the Pcr stores of meat eaters compared to vegetarians. There was one study that showed creatine elevated Pcr more in vegetarians then meat-eaters. This...
  • Woops, realised an error there. Pcr stores and...

    Woops, realised an error there. Pcr stores and creatine stores are not the same thing. I will do some research to find out if meat eaters have higher pcr stores. If they do, then the 2 gram study...
  • Also, the 2 gram study seems dodgy as meat eaters...

    Also, the 2 gram study seems dodgy as meat eaters have higher creatine stores then vegetarians. Meat eaters on average consume 1-1.2 grams a day.

    So 2 grams or lower should make a difference to...
  • So 3 grams without a loading phase is fine?

    So 3 grams without a loading phase is fine?
  • Following an initial loading phase, yes. ...

    Following an initial loading phase, yes.[/QUOTE]

    The following study states that 3 grams a day has the same effect as a loading dose

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8828669

    Will 2 grams a...
  • Thanks

    Thanks
  • Does this mean you advise a loading phase? It is...

    Does this mean you advise a loading phase? It is known that 3 grams a day will cause maximal pcr saturation.

    Is this study is a load of rubbish?
  • Here is the full article. Look at table 7 ...

    Here is the full article. Look at table 7

    http://www.udel.edu/PT/PT%20Clinical%20Services/journalclub/sojc/99_00/feb00/volek.pdf
  • So whats left is Increase acne, body hair...

    So whats left is

    Increase acne, body hair
    Increases aggression/antisocial behavior
    Improve sex life
    Reduce estrogen
    Up-regulates the gene expression of hypocretin (also called orexin),...
  • NO HYPE, The following studies suggest 2 grams...

    NO HYPE, The following studies suggest 2 grams per day isn't enough

    Reference 1: no increase in muscle creatine concentration using two grams of creatine per day even after six weeks: ...
  • What do you make of these studies NO HYPE? The...

    What do you make of these studies NO HYPE? The two studies use low doses and don't increase muscle creatine stores?
  • NO HYPE, The following studies suggest 2 grams...

    NO HYPE, The following studies suggest 2 grams per day isn't enough

    Reference 1: no increase in muscle creatine concentration using two grams of creatine per day even after six weeks: ...
  • The testicular atrophy doesn't happen, as...

    The testicular atrophy doesn't happen, as creatine doesn't reduce testosterone.

    Also, it increases DHT:T ratio which makes you a homo - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15677419

    DHT doesn't...
  • It wasn't stabilised, it went down from 56% to...

    It wasn't stabilised, it went down from 56% to 40%. I accept that a 40% increase is not the 6-700% increase that a DHT injection causes.

    I still think it is reasonable to assume that some of...
  • Creatine increases DHT possibly. What are the effects of this?

    Should I be worried by this increase in DHT? I've looked through pubmed for effects of DHT.

    Increases aggression/antisocial behavior
    Improve sex life
    Causes reversible testicular atrophy...
  • 3 grams, 3 times a week is 1.28 grams a day. If...

    3 grams, 3 times a week is 1.28 grams a day. If creatine synthesis was to go down by 30% (0.6g), this would mean we only need 0.68 grams per day. This seems really low. Is the 0.6 grams figure a poor...
  • NO HYPE, you say 3-5 gram, 3x a week. Could I go...

    NO HYPE, you say 3-5 gram, 3x a week. Could I go with the 3 gram estimate? Or is 5 grams a safer bet?

    30% less precursors surely reduces endogenous synthesis by a significant amount. If endogenous...
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  • NO HYPE, the following study from an earlier...

    NO HYPE, the following study from an earlier page, indicates that creatine affects endogenous synthesis.

    whttp://jap.physiology.org/content/97/3/852.full

    Doesn't this mean you need to take in...
  • So should it be cycled?

    So should it be cycled?
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