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    What means of control would the church have if...

    What means of control would the church have if that was the case? They would be powerless if they taught everyone would be saved regardless of their actions here on earth.

    But you're right, a...
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    [QUOTE=wanttobearnold][QUOTE=CITADEL] Because...

    Because the early Church Fathers had no knowledge of these 'four gospels'. I can go deeper into this if you like and provide specific examples, or you can research it for yourself and come to your...
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    [QUOTE=wanttobearnold][QUOTE=CITADEL] The...

    The gospels wern't written by anyone who ever spoke with Jesus, much less anyone who witnessed any miracles. It's more likely they were written by groups of Christians who were founded by the author...
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    [QUOTE=wanttobearnold][QUOTE=CITADEL] That's...

    That's for each individual to decide for themselves. I believe no. Just remember what was quoted above. Miracles have only occured in places and times when people believed in them. Coincidence? You...
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    [QUOTE=wanttobearnold][QUOTE=CITADEL] Well,...

    Well, what solid, reliable reasons are there to believe otherwise? All of the miracles he performed (walking on water, curing the incurable, turning water to wine, casts out devils, ceases storms,...
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    [QUOTE=wanttobearnold][QUOTE=CITADEL] Yes,...

    Yes, you're correct. I believe Jesus was a real human,but 'The Christ' was not.
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    [QUOTE=powerman2000]Oh right, it was all just a...

    [QUOTE=powerman2000]Oh right, it was all just a huge conspiracy. :rolleyes:
    BTW, it was real convenient for you to ignore (discount) what I posted about Josephus, the Jewish historian. Or was he all...
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    [QUOTE=CitadelArmyJAG] Getting racked by an...

    Getting racked by an alumni online, how awesome is that! Well I don't have Gold Stars (1st semester I was in a complete fog still), but I do get OPA and OR enough that I've had enough merits to take...
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    Correct. These '7 deadly sins' were created by a...

    Correct. These '7 deadly sins' were created by a man, Pope Gregory the Great. He also included Anger and Sadness as deadly sins. Take from that what you will in regards to how much credit should be...
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    Statues and such serve as a reminder of what they...

    Statues and such serve as a reminder of what they are worshipping. The fact people kneel before certain monuments is a sign of their ignorance, but none the less they arn't actually worshipping those...
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    Who's in the position to decide what's right? Is...

    Who's in the position to decide what's right? Is pulling Italian soilders out of Iraq the wrong thing to do for Italians? In case you're unaware, a large protion of this world doesn't support what...
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    [QUOTE=DanMc]They are sissies anyway.... QUOTE] ...

    [QUOTE=DanMc]They are sissies anyway.... QUOTE]

    How are they 'sissies'? They don't want to be there, their people don't want them to be there. Why should they remain there?
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    Nothing breads Intolerance and Superstition like...

    Nothing breads Intolerance and Superstition like religion, as is evident in this thread.

    Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True...
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    All religions are faith-based (except the ones...

    All religions are faith-based (except the ones that worship worldy objects of course) because they have nothing else to base it on. They have no proof, so all that is left to confirm their beliefs is...
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    It's like the Crusades all over again lol.

    It's like the Crusades all over again lol.
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    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:...

    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother ...
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    [QUOTE=Lars21]I don't have to give proof because...

    [QUOTE=Lars21]I don't have to give proof because I have faith. QUOTE]

    Having faith in something doesn't make it so. If you're going to claim something to be true you must have proof, unless of...
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    Uh, you can feel wind and see the effects of air...

    Uh, you can feel wind and see the effects of air and wind. Nice example.
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    still fighting the good fight aserecuba, thats...

    still fighting the good fight aserecuba, thats good to see.
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    http://www.wistv.com/global/story.asp?s=1772260&Cl...

    http://www.wistv.com/global/story.asp?s=1772260&ClientType=Print

    'Dogman' David Tant, local dog fighter = owned

    Hopefully natural science and his hick family will be next.
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