That's too much bloat for me, take your protein post w/o. I usually try and get me a good protein/complex carb meal a couple hours before I train so my pre will kick in faster on a semi empty stomach.
These guys are right but eating right sometimes can be expensive. Always keep an eye for your local grocery stores for specials on boneless skinless chicken, eggs, lean red meat etc..supplements can...
I concur;) Most gyms seem anymore like a place for convo rather than lifting. They even spend more money on the lounging area instead of the equipment:(
It's probably not the pre itself. Your body is telling you that you need more rest and proper nutrition. Switch up your pre's, there are a lot of lower stim pre's that don't make you crash. Bullnox...
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