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    Then add chin-ups and curls (if necessary) to...

    Then add chin-ups and curls (if necessary) to your SS routine and you should be set. Not much difference there anyway ;).
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    Here's a short description of Greyskull: ...

    Here's a short description of Greyskull:

    strengthvillain.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=89&start=460#p11084
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    You need to tell us more... what's your workout...

    You need to tell us more... what's your workout routine? How much do you eat per day? Protein and bcaa aren't everything.
  • No it doesn't. People should realize that those...

    No it doesn't. People should realize that those machines are only good for the advanced lifter, who already did heavy squats that day but still feels like he needs some more leg work, without having...
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    If that's your goal, better give Greyskull LP a...

    If that's your goal, better give Greyskull LP a try. It's basically SS but you Squat only on Monday and Friday, while you deadlift only on Wednesday. The Press and Bench Press is alternated each day...
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    Buy yourself a power rack, a bench, a barbell and...

    Buy yourself a power rack, a bench, a barbell and weight plates and do a workout with squats, deadlifts, bench presses and overhead presses...
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    Nah I think he meant in workout A he does Squats...

    Nah I think he meant in workout A he does Squats as the main exercise and in workout B he does Deadlifts as the main exercise just like in Greyskull LP for example. He does Front Squat somewhere in...
  • What do you mean with a rest day once each set of...

    What do you mean with a rest day once each set of 4 days? If you mean that you do that workout day after day like Mon PUSH, Tue PULL, Wed LEG, Thu PUSH, Fri PULL etc. with some rest days after 3 or 4...
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    A routine like Starting Strength and it's...

    A routine like Starting Strength and it's derivatives (Greyskull LP, Starr, Madcow, Strong Lifts...) usually have 3 workout days per week (because resting allows you to recover). Greyskull even has a...
  • Well if you're serious about working out these...

    Well if you're serious about working out these are the 2 best possibilities:

    1.) Build yourself a home gym. All you need for one of the good workout programs is the following: A power rack, a...
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    Yeah the decline press was meant as a "waste of...

    Yeah the decline press was meant as a "waste of time" for the goals the OP has set. Although I'd argue that everyone who does the normal bench press regularly wouldn't need to do the decline press....
  • Do a real strength program that works for...

    Do a real strength program that works for beginners. Don't do everything with DBs, try to incorporate BBs and you only have to worry about your grip when you do some heavy a** deadlifts.
  • Basically the same thing has been discussed...

    Basically the same thing has been discussed yesterday/today in this thread (lower back issues and starting strength):

    forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147884973

    I think you should be...
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    Dips are a good compound exercise themselves......

    Dips are a good compound exercise themselves... do them if you want (I do) and actually you could also cut out the triceps-push downs when doing the dips. If bodyweight is to easy for you, than you...
  • You say that you feel a "lot of muscles" hurting...

    You say that you feel a "lot of muscles" hurting in the back. Now if it is just the lower back muscles that are hurting: that's fine. If there's more to this, than it's hard to tell... back injuries...
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    Yeah that's the effect of the counterintuitive at...

    Yeah that's the effect of the counterintuitive at work :). But a question first: How often a week do you do this workout?

    Now to what I think:

    * Working out your legs is simply the most...
  • Well in SS it's described that you won't make...

    Well in SS it's described that you won't make progress forever and what to do in that case. Try it one or two more times. If you still can't finish your set take 10% off your current weight and work...
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    You're right rows aren't in any of the example...

    You're right rows aren't in any of the example variations but they are mentioned in the additional strength-training movements section and while I do like the chin-ups a lot I'd also like to include...
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    One possible solution that just came to my mind...

    One possible solution that just came to my mind would be a variation like this:

    MONDAY:
    Press/Bench Press (A/B)
    Weighted Chin-Ups
    Rows
    Squat

    WEDNESDAY:
    Press/Bench Press (A/B)
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    Greyskull LP Chin-Ups Question

    Hi,

    I'd like to give the Greyskull LP program a try, especially the mass gain variant. As you might know in comparison to Starting Strength you only squat Monday and Friday while deadlifting only...
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