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Wow why seems a bit excessive I'd use one or the other. Ultima is always at the top of the crop for me personally.

Agree, start with making that diet first and foremost for you. Once you get that figured out you will continue to see good progress, that is the key a lot of people want to skip over. But congrats to...

Triazole and DAA would be fine for a natty testboosting stack.

Lots of options out there i hear good things about Hemavol, i like Neogenix NeuroSurge when i need stims but i usually just use Neogenix BodyForge. But also lots of other good ones SAN's Fierce...

I have to say what everyone else is saying take sometime off some supplements. Maybe look into Southland's Revamp. I like to use Neogenix BodyForge while i'm taking time off stims.

Congrats on getting your old name back.

NeuroSurge would of worked with MAN's Body Octane

Your 17, you should wait and do things with your diet and training before thinking preworkouts and other supplements.

I'd honestly say stay with the basics your 23 and your still going to make plenty of good gains naturally. Diet, sleep, exercise.

Diet and exercising

Loose the Glutamine its not doing anything for you.

I'd drop the Arginine for some Agmatine. Citrulline Malate, COP and Agmatine are 3 of my favorite supplements, with LCLT coming in there also.

I haz more apps?

Ya buddy, you should take sometime off stims if you just been running C4 or Neurocore.

Some good looking apps here lets see some more action.

For me nothing beats a good non stim preworkout, i steer away from stim preworkouts just cause i don't want that dependency on the stim feeling for motivation. Products like Neogenix BodyForge,...

For me i love Neogenix BodyForge with SNS Agmatine, awesome worksout. But if i could only have one thing bulk mono is always a winner.

I love NeuroSurge for focus and motivation in the gym. The focus on it is amazing for me. At the moment you have buy 2 get one free here on BB.com for it also.

This for sure is a great non stim product.

Neogenix BodyForge, iForce Hemavol or Omega Ultima.