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Lol, so much easier said than done. I do try to keep them tucked, it just happens

So what would you suggest? I already tuck my elbows at the bottom, I just can't help flaring them off the chest when I'm fatigued

When I start getting close to failure on the close grip bench my elbows flare a lot and it puts me in a awful position to finish the rep. Is there anyway to get rid of this? My thoughts were that...

Oops, I should of been more clear, I just meant no shoulder pressing, not no lateral raises or facepulls.

I agree, it was just something I thought about

I think it's because if people do a lot of benching they expect the delts to be taken care of, that was my reasoning at least, I still do think high incline pressing instead of shoulder pressing...

Yee, Mike is crazy strong. Would love to know how he competes in the 275 weight class at 6ft or something and isn't even fat lol

Not a clue

My idea of a push press is the latter

I'm going to keep training shoulders directly, just going to have to take it slow and concentrate on form like Mike Moore suggested. I'm actually surprised at the response I've got to be honest, I...

I dunno, I think if you bring the bar down to your upper chest/clavicle area it is meant to recruit some chest, I saw it strength training anatomy, I think Jason Blaha also says that it recruits your...

For those who feel like it helps increase their lifts, how often do you manage to add weight to your shoulder presses?

I have watched videos on form, I tense my glutes and quads, push my head back slightly and aim for my nose with the bar on the way up and on the way back down. I just find it hard not to let the bar...

I get concentrating on form, I've reset the weight recently to work on my form and build up some momentum, but I still failed on weights a little lighter than what I've hit just because the bar got...

I've tried focusing on adding reps, but because of my form the reps I hit are sometimes inconsistent, like if the bar gets too far in front of me a few times on one set it can mess me up for the rest

I'm not wanting to skip them, but I was just thinking about it as my form keeps messing up (bar gets too far in front of me) and it's ruining all my sets for them

But did you see your numbers shoot past what they were after a few weeks of doing them?

Yeah they are one of my favorite to train, but you just can't add weight as easy as something like a bench and they are easier to mess up

Your bench and shoulder presses progressed better, or just your shoulder presses?

Has anybody here got decent delt development from just bench variations and no shoulder pressing? Or if you train your shoulders very rarely, are they still stronger each time you train them from all...

wut. rest time doesn't matter, just depends how long you want to be in the gym. would love to see how well you would handle sets of deadlift with a minute rest lol