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Well, the pictures I do have need a bag over my head. LOL! They were snapped right when I got up those mornings.

Getting a better understanding, the lats are a good portion of your back. I...

I would have never suspected cardio being my trouble here too. This is good to know. I have great upper body definition, but my lats are not defined as well. I thought I wasn't working my lats...

Interesting, thanks. I have heard both ways being essential. I have tried both and have noticed probably more changes with the empty tummy.