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I am also sensitive to some of the ingredients found in the natty test boosters. I would experience the side effects associated with raised estrogen/progesterone etc. I had tenderness, "puffy look",...

That can depend on a number of factors, like body type, diet, and volume of weight training. One that you might want to try that is based on higher reps is called diminishing sets.

I took it just fine during a cut. I dosed it pre/during my workout anywhere from 30-50g roughly. Took it nearly the entire diet as my carb source in/around my workout and in 3 months dropped from 20%...

And, those would be...

Thanks for the replies, I am fully aware of ephedra/ephedrine/caffeine with the good, the bad, and the ugly. I am more or less just asking for honest feedback regarding its effectiveness now vs. any...

Gentlemen,

For those who know me, know I do NOT rely on supplements for any TRUE results without hard work. I am not asking this question bc I am overweight and lazy, like most do. I am in a cut...

6????? per day????? Recommended dosing is max 3 I thought... Did you take the "old" or original version?

I have worked with a few people in the past coordinating different programs and such, BUT no one has even come close to the time and effort Rob puts in to help make YOU better. Can't say enough good...

This. Definitely.

Appreciate the response, and I got your PM too. Check yours from me. DoggPound/crapp yes all the same :) When you say liking the latter "extreme stretching".... I would say that is a LOVE/HATE...

Do not know if this has been asked in this thread bc I did not want to read EVERY single page - but has anyone tried DOGG POUND training that has also done BLUEPRINT? How do the results compare? Is...

Trust me, I am not concerned about taking these products. The original question was simply about nitrate and icariin interaction and the effect on bp. I say "risky" here bc these are "newer" supps...

Sounds about right... ha

Does this happen in every thread? I respect Latte's point of view, but that can be said on nearly every supplement on the shelves today. Most prop blends have questionable ingredients with little to...

******? I would seek a doctor for that... kidding aside - may I ask what your problem is with a test booster containing herbs? Also, "stacking" it with a pre-w/o creatine supp? Do you not use...

Appreciate the replies... well some of them... Anyway, I was planning on running it with the promax alone just in case. But, if it is safe to use it with the Original containing icariin... then I...

What exactly doesn't work? Are you claiming Ergopump is bunk, or that nitrates are a waste?

I am aware of NOT combining the Original version of BF with nitrates due to a possible unsafe drop in blood pressure because of Icariin. BUT, is there any reason to not combine ErgoPUMP (containing...

Out of curiosity, why can it not be taken with a stim or another fat burner that acts through different mechanisms? Might help fight some lethargy experienced.

Well, what I am talking about is pure usnic acid. If you felt "pain" from Lipolyze, then they must put more UA in there than the bottle specifies. On some days I was taking over 700mg. SICK.