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  • I didn't say I thought Flex in 99 was closer....

    I didn't say I thought Flex in 99 was closer. Truth be told, I didn't follow modern bodybuilding back then. I simply said OTHERS felt the competition was closer that year. Some people were discussing...
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    That would imply Kai was clearly better than Phil...

    That would imply Kai was clearly better than Phil at this Olympia. He wasn't. Like I said before, neither was dominating the other this year, and Phil edged him out.



    Thing is, I'm a huge Kai...
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    Nope. Phil blew him away last year. This year was...

    Nope. Phil blew him away last year. This year was close. I wouldn't even be posting this sorta thing in this type of thread of you hadn't said something so outlandish and disrespectful towards the...
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    Don't see why Phil's wins will be full of...

    Don't see why Phil's wins will be full of emptiness. Thought you wanted this thread to keep it classy?

    Kai's a great guy, but some of his fans go off the deep end. I don't see why we can't be...
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    Agreed! I dunno if Kai will ever win, but it...

    Agreed! I dunno if Kai will ever win, but it would be cool if he wins at least one. Kai is definitely one of the most inspirational bodybuilders, and probably the most inspirational of our time. :)
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    Sometimes the majority is delusional and bases...

    Sometimes the majority is delusional and bases their decision on emotion more than anything else. That's why California voted down gay marriage, that's why some states have gun control laws, that's...
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    Not only did I see the stream, I was there in...

    Not only did I see the stream, I was there in person for prejudging. And not only did I have pretty good seating withe my view just slightly off center, but the arena had really huge screens to watch...
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    His midsection was not better than Phil's.

    His midsection was not better than Phil's.
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    Someone posted pics with Phil, Kai, and Dennis...

    Someone posted pics with Phil, Kai, and Dennis all past the line. Get over it, crybaby.
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    You remind me if ppl that complain about what's...

    You remind me if ppl that complain about what's on TV but refuse to change the channel or turn the TV off
  • Poll: Phil was bloated for sure, but Kai was worse.

    Phil was bloated for sure, but Kai was worse.
  • Poll: Wasn't clear at all. Kai was soft again, but...

    Wasn't clear at all. Kai was soft again, but slightly better than last year. Can't see what "travesty" some are talking about since Kai got blown away last year and the contest was close in 2012....
  • The show wasn't won on size. It was won on...

    The show wasn't won on size. It was won on conditioning, shape, roundness, pop, and proportion. The judges got to see the guys in a line even if there were certain instances where some competitors...
  • It would be a pointless rule. Moving forward when...

    It would be a pointless rule. Moving forward when another competitor does takes away the other guy's advantage. And as the pics showed, Phil wasn't the only one doing it.
  • What's sad is you guys crying about it against.....

    What's sad is you guys crying about it against.. Instead of being aggressive at the press conference and prejudging, it would've been more advantageous for Kai to simply take a step forward while on...
  • He does it every year to build suspense, and it...

    He does it every year to build suspense, and it works. Whether you like it or not, the suspense was killing me!
  • No he didn't. Neither one dominated the other....

    No he didn't. Neither one dominated the other. Phil edged him out, even in the back double biceps. Kai just wins the front lat spread and may the abs/thighs pose.
  • Higher quality would just show you that Kai was...

    Higher quality would just show you that Kai was too soft. He did improve for finals though (I'm guessing the vid is prejudging but I didn't watch it) saw the prejudging in person, and they had huge...
  • Most people have an arm imbalance. You're...

    Most people have an arm imbalance. You're overblowing it. He looked awesome. If ppl wanna complain about Phil's gut, just admit Kai's was worse. And BTW, Kai's gut is grotesque in person, but I...
  • Was telling y'all that Kai blew it since...

    Was telling y'all that Kai blew it since prejudging. He looked better at finals, but it wasn't enough.

    Phil earned, yes EARNED, another win but this year's win wasn't that dominant.

    As for...
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