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    Crimson is a nice color!!

    Crimson is a nice color!!
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    Big Orange has that rack minus the weight stack. ...

    Big Orange has that rack minus the weight stack. Of course his is that obnoxious Orange color.
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    Most of mine came with curl bars that I...

    Most of mine came with curl bars that I purchased. Most of those were purchased on ebay.
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    Interesting that the video says that the move is...

    Interesting that the video says that the move is for the back (my machine shows the same thing on the diagram), yet it is always touted as a great chest building exercise. I do believe the machine...
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    I've actually got the machine and it feels better...

    I've actually got the machine and it feels better to me, for the reasons you guys have stated. However, the dumbbell pullover is always the one I see recommended in strength training articles.
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    I have 2 pairs of each. Never realized there was...

    I have 2 pairs of each. Never realized there was a difference. I had just assumed that since the curl bars were made in Taiwan, that the collars were also.
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    Pullover machines vs dumbbell pullovers?

    Would you say these are interchangeable, or is one better than the other?
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    This is getting really ridiculous!!

    This is getting really ridiculous!!
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    ajsat - Did you ever get your rack?

    ajsat - Did you ever get your rack?
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    I'll be quite surprised if Bama makes it past...

    I'll be quite surprised if Bama makes it past Auburn and the SEC East Champion (still expecting Georgia - I think Arkansas will beat Missouri).
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    http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc10/tbell2007/...

    http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc10/tbell2007/20140402_144336_zpsf16046b1.jpg

    http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc10/tbell2007/20140402_144240_zps9d24a8a0.jpg
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    I need to check mine, but I was under the...

    I need to check mine, but I was under the impression that they were made in Taiwan.
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    I'd given up on them actually making one.

    I'd given up on them actually making one.
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    This is the one I made a couple of years ago. It...

    This is the one I made a couple of years ago. It works rather well but they are extremely hard to do. They also hit the hamstrings much harder than the glutes.
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    Sticky: This ^^^. The DP bar is not a bad bar.

    This ^^^. The DP bar is not a bad bar.
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    Sticky: Definitely get the Bodymaster!

    Definitely get the Bodymaster!
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    Sticky: It will definitely be in a different league than...

    It will definitely be in a different league than the PPR200. How much are they asking for the Bodymaster? How much is the PPR200?
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    Sticky: Whether it is DP or York, it probably dates to...

    Whether it is DP or York, it probably dates to around 1980. I know the DP bar was advertised in the 1980 JC Penny Wish Book.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=160452491&page=4
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    Sticky: I believe Berg Hantel (very high quality German)...

    I believe Berg Hantel (very high quality German) built the first revolving sleeve bar and it was a split sleeve. York Barbell (USA up until the last 10 years or so - quality has diminished since)...
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    Sticky: I'm guessing the chrome one is just a cheap...

    I'm guessing the chrome one is just a cheap Chinese bar, and the black one is a DP bar.
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