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So how would you describe your position? Are you a deist that just believes there is a creator to this universe, or do you take it a step further and say this creator answers prayers and intervenes...

Thank you.

Would you say that before the theory of evolution was proposed, an example of an observation statement was that life appeared to be designed?

Could you elaborate?

Why would I be saying that if I am an atheist? What I am pointing out is that it only gets you as far as deism. In that argument there is no direct connection between the general idea of a creator...

Post #66 from this thread addresses this question

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=165841011&page=3

What are these non-inferential or properly basic beliefs?

Are you even paying attention? This is a different discussion. I am responding to uwootm8. He said it's inconceivable to believe that god does not exist. I'm saying that's a god of the gaps argument....

Where is your response? I did not see it.

Do you think if I repeat it, it somehow makes it any less of a god of the gaps argument? I'll repeat it as many times as people make the god of the gaps...

It doesn't matter if it's inconceivable. I say this without trying to be disrespectful, but you are resorting to a god of the gaps argument. " I don't know, therefore god".

I will disagree that...

Same goes for the bible. The serpent sounds like the good guy, who wants people to know good and wrong. God sounds like the bad guy who punishes people for obtaining knowledge. Very 1984'ish. Not to...

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It would not be strange at all if the premise was that rape is objectively wrong. Things do not need to be objective to matter. Guess what, I am already rejecting that rape is objectively wrong, and...

Not at all. The answer is in there if you look.






I'll grant that. However, does it apply for instances where people are mean just for the sake of it? No. Just a side example. I would...

I see that one needs to be repetitive with you.



I don't blame you. The bible is full of contradictions.

His commandments are not for himself, but for other people. Remember...he's god. He can do what he wants. He can drown people in floods and let children die of disease. If anyone of "us" who are...

In other words, you have nothing to say. I'll post my quote here again, try not avoiding the point.

The quotes i presented are commandments against insults. The quotes you presented are just of people using insults. I don't see what your point is?

That's like saying it's against christianity to...

Then you are an agnostic atheist.

"Atheist Agnosticism can say “People in the future might be able to know but at present none of us may rightfully claim we know given the current state of...

You don't really know what it is then. Atheism is the null hypothesis.

We know morals and rape to exist. We do NOT know god to exist. We don't need to presume otherwise when it comes to morals and...

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