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In 1937 Simkins studied the effects of DNP on 159 subjects who were kept on DNP for many months to over a year. He reported that "The majority felt a tremendous iinprovement in their sense of well...

EC also has a catabolic effect on muscle glycogen... which is the exact opposite of what you're trying to accomplish when carb loading.

I have no clue about EC and carb loading, huh? Maybe you can tell us what EC does to FFA levels. Maybe you can tell us how FFA levels affect insulin sensitivity. Maybe you can tell us about EC's...

My fan club has arrived. For anyone who's unfamiliar with what's going on, RippedAss was banned by me from the bodybuilding.com chat. He's upset, so he follows me around from thread to thread and...

Right, you don't want to be taking EC while carb loading.

I agree. You can overdose on EC. It's damn rare, but it can happen, especially if you have pre-existing conditions that predispose you to injury.

However, I think it's silly to talk about...

I think worrying about the transient GH release during exercise should be a very low priority.

SupremeSM, one more thing. That's not the only study that used a standardized extract. They used one in this study as well: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15994038

Just like before, they...

YES, it was 3.21 mg/lb of an "extract that was standardized to 45% saponins and protodyosin". That's what the research paper says. The abstract doesn't say it, but they say it in the full text.
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The dose used has nothing to do with the study's validity. It has to do with applicability and scope.

Also, keep in mind that 3.21 mg/lb of a 45% extract is equivalent to 14.45 mg/lb of a 10%...

Un-freaking-believable. Do you know the difference between an abstract and the full text? I'm starting to think you don't. You're only looking at the abstract. You need to LOOK AT THE FULL TEXT OF...

You are seriously such a retard. Did you not read my reply? The full text clearly explained that they used a standardized extract. I didn't fabricate anything. We've also talked over and over about...

The two studies that are cited most often against tribulus both used standardized extracts with a high protodiscin content. Haven't you been following the thread?
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It bothers me that there are no references anywhere for the three "studies" that are being summarized. They look like unpublished, unreviewed, uncontrolled "company documents".

Considering tribulus has been shown to have no effect on the chronic end points that people really care about (like test levels, exercise performance, body comp, mood, etc.), I think researchers will...

Well stated. The protocol is obviously measuring chronic effects over 4 weeks.

I agree. What matters is the caloric deficit. Ketones are protein sparing, but so are carbs and so is protein. You can lose fat just as well with a high carb, low fat diet. Just keep your protein...

You know, after reading the full text of this study once again, I have to disagree. I think an acute effect would have shown up during the morning blood test after the morning tribulus dose.

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Don't ignore the fact that this is with intravenous administration. It has little to no applicability, even if it was performed this way in humans.
"Zero evidence against the assumption", as you...

That's not what glycogenesis means. I think you mean gluconeogenesis. And even then, body protein won't be lost if there's sufficient dietary protein.