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    Actually the link includes results from a...

    Actually the link includes results from a meta-analysis of all randomized trials. All studies included are pretty old. No recent study examined the association.



    The authors did not do a good...
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    I think I'm the only to ever systematically...

    I think I'm the only to ever systematically review data about the relation between vegetable oil or linoleic acid and cardiovascular disease risk. I found no evidence for an association:...
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    Don't forget my own work:...

    Don't forget my own work: http://coconaise.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/satfat02.pdf :)
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    If you define the evidence "as is", you would...

    If you define the evidence "as is", you would have to conclude that there is evidence saturated fats are neutral regarding cardiovascular diseases.
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    You can twist and turn it everyway you want:...

    You can twist and turn it everyway you want: animal research will still remain at the bottom of evidence. Results cannot be translated to expected effects in humans.



    Then you can surely tell...
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    For someone yelling about causality, you have no...

    For someone yelling about causality, you have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about. Causality might be established by randomizing people to the chemicals while putting the a control. Show me...
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    We do not know "as a fact" that chemical's in...

    We do not know "as a fact" that chemical's in cigarettes are carcinogenic. Same goes for chemicals in red meat. 100% certain that causality has not been established!!!
    Show me studies comparing...
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    Great articles by Alan. I rarely read...

    Great articles by Alan. I rarely read publications from people interpreting science the same way as I do.
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    So an effect does not exist until we know exactly...

    So an effect does not exist until we know exactly what happens in the body? That should put a hold on science. There is no medicine registered on the market for which we are 100% certain that the...
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    Maybe you should scroll...

    Maybe you should scroll down....................... And read.



    You have got to be kidding me.
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    Sorry that I don't take educational notes from...

    Sorry that I don't take educational notes from someone whose knowledge of science does not get beyond "correlation = not causation". In no way whatsoever have you referred to any scientific basis...
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    Results from prospective cohort studies are the...

    Results from prospective cohort studies are the most reliable source of data in the absence of data from randomized trials. The page shows what else they were eating. Click on the extended tables.
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    The possibility of causation should be considered...

    The possibility of causation should be considered if consistent findings are done, with publication bias probably absent. Ignoring these findings without any relevant reason would be plain stupid.
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    As you said yourself, your research does not...

    As you said yourself, your research does not examine Omega-6. This systematic review does and concludes that currently no evidence from randomized trials exists relating linoleic acid to...
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    Red meat is one of the few factors most...

    Red meat is one of the few factors most consistently linked to higher disease incidence in epidemiology. Making your statement more than unlikely.



    The WCRF links dairy and red/processed meat...
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    Are french fries, donuts, chips and cookies...

    Are french fries, donuts, chips and cookies related to colon cancer? If so, did any of the studies adjust for consumption of these variables?

    If red meat is to be causally related to cancer, we...
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    Please refer to scientific literature showing...

    Please refer to scientific literature showing evidence that results from prospective cohort studies are irrelevant.
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    Thanx for the strong arguments showing the data...

    Thanx for the strong arguments showing the data is irrelevant!



    Maybe you know that often correlation actually = causation.
    The link Mrpb refered to was written by me. I read all full text...
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    In a few studies, the highest egg consumption...

    In a few studies, the highest egg consumption category consisted of 2 or more eggs day.
    It does not seem probable that high consumption may be beneficial to our health. And there are some...
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    It's a nasty question. In most studies, high egg...

    It's a nasty question. In most studies, high egg consumption was defined as "more than 1 egg per day". Not nearly the amount a bodybuilder might consume. Therefore, an honest answer to the question...
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