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    I think one big thing at Evan's age is that he's...

    I think one big thing at Evan's age is that he's got the mass. Whether or not *this* is the breakout year for him, he could start an O run 8-10 years from now and still win 6 or so if he's on the...
  • m@$turb@te. furiously.

    m@$turb@te. furiously.
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    Don't listen to that-cleans are what built my...

    Don't listen to that-cleans are what built my shoulders/traps/forearms/calves.

    Its not specifically a bodybuilding exercise, but THEN AGAIN neither is ANY 3x3 exercise. Cleans hit those muscles...
  • OP, I'm not here to criticize you or bash...

    OP, I'm not here to criticize you or bash you...but looking at that routine tells me maybe you shouldn't be on synthetics. again, thats not an insult, I'm just saying that synthetics come into play...
  • this is probably my favorite thread ever

    this is probably my favorite thread ever
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    D@mmit, I've been had. sorry, my bad-I should...

    D@mmit, I've been had. sorry, my bad-I should probably neg myself for that one
  • youre right.

    youre right.
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    key word: PICTURE. I'm not saying that phil...

    key word: PICTURE. I'm not saying that phil WASNT in better condition but a picture doesn't say it all-that's why the judges are there in person. I was not, all i have is pictures, but i've always...
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    whoa. lets not start accusing complements of...

    whoa. lets not start accusing complements of trolling. Next thing you know someone will say Coleman had a weak area in _______ and be accused. people CAN complement the reigning Sandow
  • hahahahahaha. AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Barry...

    hahahahahaha.



    AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Barry Bonds.
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    we're all pretty quick to judge (and by judge i...

    we're all pretty quick to judge (and by judge i mean bash). I'm guilty of it too, but we've gotta remember a Sandow is a Sandow is a Sandow. the bodies of today are different than yesterday and...
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    Lets see what Arnold has to say on the matter

    Lets see what Arnold has to say on the matter
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    Jay "Quad Stomp" Cutler

    Jay "Quad Stomp" Cutler
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    you should edit that one...I don't want to be a...

    you should edit that one...I don't want to be a neg but powercleans have been and still are my 2nd most mass building exercise outside of squats. As much as dealift they work *every* muscle in the...
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    ? I see no troll. Anyways were talking muscle...

    ? I see no troll.

    Anyways were talking muscle *group* and not just *muscle*. i.e. shoulders, not just medial deltoid. But keeping a list like that can definitely help you keep your routine...
  • eat the same, its the days off that your muscles...

    eat the same, its the days off that your muscles are growing.

    thats being said, I eat about 400 less cals because I don't have my post-workout shake. everything else stays the same
  • +100

    +100
  • ^^ This. I've also had people advise that you...

    ^^ This. I've also had people advise that you should be able to use starting strength/macows until you've at least hit [1.5 x bodyweight] bench press, [2 x bodyweight] squat, and [2.5 x bodyweight]...
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    hence, Kai Greene winning a contest based on any...

    hence, Kai Greene winning a contest based on any kind of aesthetic criteria
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    I mean seriously if you're looking for a...

    I mean seriously if you're looking for a "spartacus" workout or a "300" workout, either do crossfit or P90X. That's the closest thing you're going to find and the only thing the hollywood workouts...
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