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Exactly back at you. Of course if the Universe could be insulted, I'm sure it wouldn't worry to much since our entire galaxy would represent something smaller than a spec of dust in a football...

Here's another example of fractal mathematics producing complexity out of nothing:

http://www.geocities.com/bmw328driver/fern.gif

That was drawn from a fractal equation.

"The fractal fern...

A few million years? Man hasn't even existed for a few million years. That's so far away that this whole discussion is completely irrelevant. It's unlikely that we'll still BE human as we currently...

Yes, that is conjecture. However so is any study saying that life is impossible to happen naturally due to the complexity of a cell, as unlike me, no scientific study would ever state the certainty...

Lol I know what playing Devils Advocate is, but I didn't read the entire discussion.

Of course life is improbable... in a given part of the unviverse Most of the universe isn't even made out of...

I've read the theory.

ID theories always baffle me because they feel like reading a book backwards. The fine tuned universe seems to assume that life is some kind of goal, that it is an end...

How exactly is the universe fine tuned to support life? That's a good one, considering the that the predominant view is that universe is by nature chaotic and incredibly hostile, of course hostile is...

If you guys want to actually debate people who do not subscribe to a theological explanation of anything scientific, you have to argue with science, since science is backed up by evidence.
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we dont care about poor design! There is no such thing as good or bad! Is a cat better than a dog? A dog better than a cat?

The cats better suited to its niche than a dog and a dogs better suited...

Oh and I'm still waiting to hear how intelligent design, creationists, and even better, young earth creationists if there any floating around, resolve solar nucleosynthesis with their "scientific"...

Since this whole thing started with evolution, i want to point out that there is no such thing as optimal in evolution.

Thats called the fallacy of orthogenesis, believing that evolution has some...

I think it's important to point out that if you do believe in a higher power, he understands all this already so he probably takes it as a compliment if you take the time to look a little closer at...

Maybe I should go into more detail.

1) We can look at a star or a supernova and know what's in it through spectral anaylsis. We can "see" iron and silicon and carbon by the unique spectral...

I dont do cliffnotes, read it yourself.

You're missing the point. We know we are made of heavy elements. We know where heavy elements are made. That place is stars. Thus we come from stars.

Is...

Anyway I shouldn't really. The hallmark of religious debaters is their insistence that the scientific community present unto them at their doorstep information.

These physics are out there being...

I shouldnt link wikipedia but no one bull****s nuclear physics pages and you can check the references if you like.

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And yes, of course I am, if essentially the entire planet and...

My only issue is that people let the idea that it was all created take away from the passion to figure it out. We know more than you think and we find out more every year, if we all just accept that...

But really, how exactly does religion reconcile something like us witnessing the creation of the same elements that make us up, in a supernovae, 4 million light years away?

Are you really going to...

It's kind of fun to think your left nut at one point may have been involved in something like this:

http://www.te.astro.it/attivitascientifica/telescopi/azt24/catseye_hst.jpg

Keep in mind that...

Actually I can tell you that, you might enjoy the answer.

Elements other than helium and hydrogen come from stars. They are produced in the core and are blasted across the cosmos in supernovae to...