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^^ I shall trust the opinions of the bodybuilder who holds a PHD in nutritional science. "Waste of time" is a rather exaggerated stance lol.

bumping this very old thread (apologies) but was just diving back in to some research for this topic.

It makes a lot of sense and helps clarify a few things with regards to performing HIIT on...

I like this as well.

I have played with the idea of having 1 FULL BODY power day as well... allowing myself more hypertrophy room since I consider bodybuilding my primary objective.

I credit a lot of that to EC myself... ever since my first run caffeine has never worked the same... ha, oh well.

Barley post here anymore but I wanted to bump this...







Some pretty strong evidence pointing towards the anti-catabolic effects of EC...

What are your credentials? You are so sure if yourself so you must have some...

I agree with you in that any increase in muscle comes with a degree of an increase of fat there is no way around that. Ask anyone who has abused cell tech or user cell tech with a ****ty diet (even...

Are you saying that the use of steroids do not "allow" one to gain muscle and loose bodyfat at the same time any more then the natural lifter?

I have seen first hand people with pretty weak diets...

That's what I figured... for now I am sticking with Upper/Lower but I am thinking something like Squat/Bench/Row would work well. Maybe toss in OH Pressing and SLDL/GoodMornings if energy levels...

Well as layne has stated many many times it is not a program but rather a "system" that can be altered and tailored to fit ones needs.

Also.. will you implement WSBB/Powerlifting right up into your contest? Bodybuilding that is not powerlifting.

I eat carbs whenever I want and my BF is stripping off. (no ecto)

Hit your ****ing macros people. It's that simple.

Has anyone had any success combining the Upper and Lower days into 1 FULL BODY power day?

Also does anyone run it 5 consectuive days in a row? resting on the weekends?

well then i will not be taking. :)

My god...

x2... I am assuming you are still crushing your upper body in a higher rep range?

Here is the spreadsheet I use when running this program... don't know if anyone posted this already but oh well.

I actually started doing a "shoulder day" again with OH pressing (nuetral grip) and my shoulder feels better. Strange. Still pain etc. but not as bad these past couple weeks.

Today my shoulder felt like a million bucks... after chest... and it's agrivating because I can't figure out what I did to make it loosen up and feel so good?

I did my usaul warmup (jump rope,...

Would you KNOW if you had a slap tear, torn labrum etc. ??

For example I have daily shoulder pain, sometimes some days are worse than others.

But although painful at times I am still able to do...